It's the xubuntu-dev mailing list, though. You might have missed that obvious part. <div class="gmail_quote">On May 9, 2014 3:07 PM, "Sid Spencer" <<a href="mailto:sidspencer@gmail.com">sidspencer@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr"><div>who installs alphas anyway other than the devs? betas, sure, but alphas? nah... more trouble than they're worth. not that i know anything, but it just seems obvious and pragmatic. </div>rock on, -sid spencer </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Elfy <<a href="mailto:ub.untu@btinternet.com" target="_blank">ub.untu@btinternet.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can we have people's views on participation in milestones for this cycle please. The schedule is still draft, but I can't see much happening to the dates now [1] We had a quick discussion in last night's meeting - [2] Those present appeared to be in favour of missing the Alpha's during this cycle. What say the rest? Elfy [1] <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule</a> [2] <a href="http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/08/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t19:13" target="_blank">http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/05/08/%23xubuntu-devel.html#t19:13</a> -- Ubuntu Forum Council Member Xubuntu QA Lead -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> </div> -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>