<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I just rebuilt my Trusty XFCE4 configuration from scratch: renamed the existing $HOME/config/xfce4 folder, logged out, and re-logged in. New desktop, same symptoms as below. <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/03/2014 04:11 PM, Richard Elkins wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:533DCE8F.7090306@gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> My 13.10 system (pre-migration to 14.04) seemed to have a well-behaved indicator plug-in. Something in the above indicator plug-in version (or something else?) changed so I get what I think is aberrant behavior. To clear the air, as it were, I established a baseline by removing the indicator plug-in from Panel 0. I then logged out and then logged back in. Okay, no indicator plug-in item ICONs and no Panel 0 issues. I like having a sound menu on Panel 0. In Saucy, the sound menu somehow appeared when I added this plug-in. In the subject indicator plug-in version, when I add the indicator plug-in to Panel 0, the following happens: <ol> <li>ICONs for only the Ethernet and Mail/messaging appear (2 ICONs). Left clicking on either one gets the correct drop-down menu for those functions.</li> <li>So, I right-click on one of the 2 visible indicator plug-in ICONs and select "Properties". </li> <li>Now I can see an indicator table with 4 entries: Application Indicators, Power Management, Sound Menu, and Messaging Menu. None of them are marked "Hidden". The "Hide indicators by default" is not checked. All 4 entries should be enabled, yes? </li> <li>In the upper right-hand corner, I can also see my usual Panel 0 items that were also there in Saucy: BOINC Manager, Dropbox, IBus, Clock, Weather Update, and Action Buttons.</li> <li>Paranoia about consumed Panel 0 space: I edited the Panel 0 preferences list of items by discarding all the separators. Rebooted. Space squeezed down but no change to Panel 0. </li> </ol> My questions: <ol> <li>Can I assume that Ethernet is part of the Application Indicators? This seems to be the case.</li> <li>Why are the Power Management and Sound Menu items not appearing on Panel 0? I have logged out and back in a few times. No change to Panel 0. I rebooted. No change to Panel 0.</li> <li>Is this a (minor) bug or my lack of understanding how the indicator plug-in should work? I can work-around this. </li> <li>Anyone else having a similar issue? </li> </ol> Thank you, Richard </blockquote> </body> </html>