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      <p>Ok, now why we are cheating in the release notes then:</p>
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      <p>We should at least fix that if we feel Ubuntu 12.04.4 is the
        wrong way to go and give some reason so the Ubuntu people have a
        chance to learn from us. ;-)<br>
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      <p>FMF</p>
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      On 14.02.2014 15:27, PK wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">That would make the "right" iso harder to find....
        Currently, Xubuntu 12.04 is in the unique position that is has
        both point releases and the original LTS kernel. AFAIK, it's the
        only official member of the Ubuntu family with these features.
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        <div>Xubuntu 12.04.4 is up to date *and* rock solid, with
          optimal compatibility for older hardware. Therefore an
          excellent choice for those who need to replace Windows XP on
          their machines: a huge potential user base! </div>
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        <div>If Xubuntu 12.04.4 would make the "kernel jump" just like
          Ubuntu, it's compatibility with older XP machines would
          decrease noticeably.</div>
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        <div style="">Regards, Pjotr.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-14 10:52 GMT+00:00 Michael
          Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div>I agree fully with you: Xubuntu 12.04 should stay on
                3.2.0 kernel. But why should Xubuntu 12.04.4 stay on it?
                If everybody can still use the 12.04 distro if having
                driver trouble?<br>
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                FMF
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                    On 14.02.2014 11:38, PK wrote:<br>
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                      <div>I don't agree with this. In my opinion,
                        Xubuntu 12.04 should stay with the 3.2.x-kernel.
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                        Because it's currently the only kernel (plus the
                        X.org version that goes with it) that still
                        supports the restricted nvidia-96 driver for old
                        Nvidia video cards. Same goes for third-party
                        SiS 671 drivers.<br>
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                      Regards, Pjotr.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-14 10:23
                        GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Xubuntu
                            12.04.4 LTS does not support the hardware
                            stack Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS supports. It stays
                            on the 3.2.0 kernel instead. What is the
                            process to have this fixed? Withdraw Xubuntu
                            12.04.4 LTS or create a Xubuntu 12.04.4a
                            LTS? I am ready to fix this distro (at least
                            for 686 and amd64 architectures) and make it
                            available for download through my FTP and
                            HTTP servers. What is the correct process
                            for this?<br>
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                            FMF<br>
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cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l

and

uname -ar
Linux xubuntu 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC 
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

which is the kernel of Xubuntu 12.04.</pre>
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