<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
I agree with Pjotr. Everyone staying on 12.04 or 12.04.x should
stay with the existing Linux kernel - which can still be bug-fixed
if need be. Support for 12.04/12.04.x continues until next year.<br>
<br>
"How to fix Xubuntu 12.04.4?". The normal update process.<br>
<br>
Our sites should be set on 14.04 LTS.<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/14/2014 09:44 AM, Pasi Lallinaho
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:52FE39F9.9000305@shimmerproject.org"
type="cite">
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The common infrastructure notes are,
well, common, and we can't help them appearing in our release
notes. It's fair to expect we had noted this in the
Xubuntu-specific notes, but that slipped through. At this point,
after four point releases, and with three(!) of them this issue
being unnoticed, I don't think it makes much difference to
change the wording.<br>
<br>
However, you're welcome to help us in making sure the notes are
correct in the future. The team starts preparing release notes
usually about a week before any release, and pretty much final
ISOs are available at that time, so you can test them and join
#xubuntu-devel to discuss what should go into the release notes
and what not.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
<br>
On 14/02/14 17:15, Michael Fischer wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote cite="mid:52FE32F6.10800@yahoo.de" type="cite">
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">
<p>Ok, now why we are cheating in the release notes then:</p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11</a>
?</p>
<p>We should at least fix that if we feel Ubuntu 12.04.4 is
the wrong way to go and give some reason so the Ubuntu
people have a chance to learn from us. ;-)<br>
</p>
<p>FMF</p>
<br>
On 14.02.2014 15:27, PK wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAELqJG6myJEHDx1z=NfLOd9+g7nJNHL=OHVMedcNPCWBfT5=AA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">That would make the "right" iso harder to
find.... Currently, Xubuntu 12.04 is in the unique position
that is has both point releases and the original LTS kernel.
AFAIK, it's the only official member of the Ubuntu family
with these features.
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>Xubuntu 12.04.4 is up to date *and* rock solid, with
optimal compatibility for older hardware. Therefore an
excellent choice for those who need to replace Windows XP
on their machines: a huge potential user base! </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If Xubuntu 12.04.4 would make the "kernel jump" just
like Ubuntu, it's compatibility with older XP machines
would decrease noticeably.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div style="">Regards, Pjotr.</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-14 10:52 GMT+00:00 Michael
Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fischerfm@yahoo.de" target="_blank">fischerfm@yahoo.de</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div>I agree fully with you: Xubuntu 12.04 should stay
on 3.2.0 kernel. But why should Xubuntu 12.04.4 stay
on it? If everybody can still use the 12.04 distro
if having driver trouble?<br>
<br>
FMF
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On 14.02.2014 11:38, PK wrote:<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>I don't agree with this. In my opinion,
Xubuntu 12.04 should stay with the
3.2.x-kernel. <br>
<br>
Because it's currently the only kernel (plus
the X.org version that goes with it) that
still supports the restricted nvidia-96
driver for old Nvidia video cards. Same goes
for third-party SiS 671 drivers.<br>
<br>
</div>
Regards, Pjotr.<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-14 10:23
GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fischerfm@yahoo.de"
target="_blank">fischerfm@yahoo.de</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS does not support the
hardware stack Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
supports. It stays on the 3.2.0 kernel
instead. What is the process to have
this fixed? Withdraw Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
or create a Xubuntu 12.04.4a LTS? I am
ready to fix this distro (at least for
686 and amd64 architectures) and make it
available for download through my FTP
and HTTP servers. What is the correct
process for this?<br>
<br>
FMF<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;white-space:pre-wrap;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px">When booting the Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS Desktop CD this is what I get:
cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
and
uname -ar
Linux xubuntu 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC
2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
which is the kernel of Xubuntu 12.04.</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<br>
--<br>
xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"
target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset></fieldset>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
--<br>
xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a>
Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu » <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a>
Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member » <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>