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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/02/14 18:12, George DiceGeorge
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<div><font face="Times New Roman"><font style="FONT-SIZE:
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title="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap"
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<div>I think it deals with things that ended in 2013 doesnt
it?</div>
<div>Unfortunately it doesn’t mention a year.</div>
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The roadmap is up-to-date. The specifications needed to be ready
last year, but the freezes are this year.<br>
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<div>Its 2 clicks from the homepage</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="http://xubuntu.org/"
href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></div>
<div>click [<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
"http://xubuntu.org/contribute/""><font
face="Times New Roman">The Community</font></a> - <a
moz-do-not-send="true" style="href:
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face="Times New Roman">Get Involved</font></a>]</div>
<div>then [<font color="#333333"><font face="Arial"><strong
style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE: decimal; VERTICAL-ALIGN:
baseline; MARGIN: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.9pt">Help create</font></strong><font
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11.9pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE: decimal; VERTICAL-ALIGN:
baseline; BORDER-BOTTOM: transparent 1px solid; MARGIN:
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href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap"><font
color="#2c82dd"><font style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"
face="Arial">the Xubuntu Roadmap</font></font></a></font><font
face="Arial"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 11.9pt"
color="#333333">, especially in the Brainstorming phase]</font></font></div>
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title="http://xubuntu.org/contribute/"
href="http://xubuntu.org/contribute/">http://xubuntu.org/contribute/</a></div>
<div><font color="#333333" face="Arial">also has a typing
mistake on the right where it repeats:</font></div>
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MARGIN: 9px 0px 29px; LINE-HEIGHT: 18pt">
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menu-item-1994" style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; MARGIN:
0px"><a moz-do-not-send="true" style="WIDTH: 90%;
VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; BORDER-BOTTOM: transparent 1px
solid; MARGIN: 0px; DISPLAY: block"
href="http://xubuntu.org/tour/"><font face="Arial"><font
style="FONT-SIZE: 11.9pt" color="#444444"><font
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none">The the Feature Tour</font></font></font></a></li>
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Fixed this.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 14 February, 2014 15:44</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"
href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">Xubuntu
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: How to fix Xubuntu 12.04.4?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The common infrastructure notes
are, well, common, and we can't help them appearing in our
release notes. It's fair to expect we had noted this in
the Xubuntu-specific notes, but that slipped through. At
this point, after four point releases, and with three(!)
of them this issue being unnoticed, I don't think it makes
much difference to change the wording.<br>
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However, you're welcome to help us in making sure the
notes are correct in the future. The team starts preparing
release notes usually about a week before any release, and
pretty much final ISOs are available at that time, so you
can test them and join #xubuntu-devel to discuss what
should go into the release notes and what not.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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On 14/02/14 17:15, Michael Fischer wrote:<br>
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<p>Ok, now why we are cheating in the release notes
then:</p>
<p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu#PrecisePangolin.2BAC8-ReleaseNotes.2BAC8-CommonInfrastructure.Ubuntu_Kernel_3.11"
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?</p>
<p>We should at least fix that if we feel Ubuntu 12.04.4
is the wrong way to go and give some reason so the
Ubuntu people have a chance to learn from us. ;-)<br>
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<p>FMF</p>
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On 14.02.2014 15:27, PK wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That would make the "right" iso harder to
find.... Currently, Xubuntu 12.04 is in the unique
position that is has both point releases and the
original LTS kernel. AFAIK, it's the only official
member of the Ubuntu family with these features.
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<div>Xubuntu 12.04.4 is up to date *and* rock solid,
with optimal compatibility for older hardware.
Therefore an excellent choice for those who need to
replace Windows XP on their machines: a huge
potential user base! </div>
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<div>If Xubuntu 12.04.4 would make the "kernel jump"
just like Ubuntu, it's compatibility with older XP
machines would decrease noticeably.</div>
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<div>Regards, Pjotr.</div>
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Michael Fischer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>I agree fully with you: Xubuntu 12.04
should stay on 3.2.0 kernel. But why should
Xubuntu 12.04.4 stay on it? If everybody can
still use the 12.04 distro if having driver
trouble?<br>
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FMF
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On 14.02.2014 11:38, PK wrote:<br>
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<div>I don't agree with this. In my
opinion, Xubuntu 12.04 should stay
with the 3.2.x-kernel. <br>
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Because it's currently the only kernel
(plus the X.org version that goes with
it) that still supports the restricted
nvidia-96 driver for old Nvidia video
cards. Same goes for third-party SiS
671 drivers.<br>
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Regards, Pjotr.<br>
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10:23 GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <span
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<div text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Xubuntu 12.04.4
LTS does not support the hardware
stack Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS supports.
It stays on the 3.2.0 kernel
instead. What is the process to
have this fixed? Withdraw Xubuntu
12.04.4 LTS or create a Xubuntu
12.04.4a LTS? I am ready to fix
this distro (at least for 686 and
amd64 architectures) and make it
available for download through my
FTP and HTTP servers. What is the
correct process for this?<br>
<br>
FMF<br>
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Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
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Linux xubuntu 3.2.0-58-generic #88-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 3 17:37:58 UTC
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