<div dir="ltr">4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone backporting it all the way to precise</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto J Dohnert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robertdohnert@gmail.com" target="_blank">robertdohnert@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only other compelling
piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun
intended, release date. Releasing the trusty kernel through updates
would be optimal. Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux team, are
supporting 12.04 for two years past the scheduled Ubuntu support
date until 2019. So, we may do a 14.10 stack as our last major
release, we may work on that for Xubuntu as well. But that will be
determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that time.<br>
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Roberto J. Dohnert<br>
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<div>On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho
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<div>If we don't need to update the ISO
really, we can just release 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that
have landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On the other hand, if there
is something we want in, it's another possibility to get stuff
in an ISO, not just updates.<br>
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I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu support
for 12.04, so not sure if it makes any difference to land big
SRU's now, since people need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat
shortly anyway.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:<br>
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<div>FYI</div>
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<div>How does this align with our planning?</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> Leann Ogasawara <<a href="mailto:leann.ogasawara@canonical.com" target="_blank">leann.ogasawara@canonical.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> <b>[RFC] 12.04.5</b><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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<div>With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted to
propose the idea of having a 12.04.5 point release for
Precise.</div>
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<div>As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point releases have
shipped with a newer kernel and X stack by default for
hardware enablement purposes. Maintainers of these
enablement stacks have agreed to support these until a
Trusty based enablement stack is supported in Precise.
Once a Trusty enablement stack is supported, all
previous enablement stacks would EOL and be asked to
migrate to the final Trusty based enablement stack which
would continue to be supported for the remaining life of
Precise.</div>
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<div>Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point release for
Precise. 12.04.4 shipped with a Saucy enablement stack
by default. This Saucy enablement stack in Precise will
eventually EOL in favor of the Trusty enablement stack.
Once that happens, our final point release for Precise
will be delivering an EOL'd enablement stack. This
seems unfortunate and inappropriate. I would like to
propose having a 5th point release for Precise which
would deliver the Trusty enablement stack for Precise.</div>
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<div>Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add no
additional maintenance burden upon teams supporting
enablement stacks in Precise. It would require some
extra effort on part of the Canonical Foundations Team
as well as the Ubuntu Release Team to spin up an
additional set of images and testing coordination etc.
However, I informally discussed this with a few members
of each of those teams and the tentative agreement was
that 12.04.5 was a reasonable request which could be
accommodated. Collectively we could find no compelling
reason to not provide 12.04.5. We also discussed that a
12.04.5 release should be optional for the Flavors to
participate in. Additionally, we would want to
purposely avoid clashing the 14.04.1 and 12.04.5 release
dates and would suggest releasing 14.04.1 first and
12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).</div>
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<div>What are other's thoughts here? Does anyone have a
compelling reason for not providing a 12.04.5 point
release?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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