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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If there is enough interest and
motivation from the community (including people who can actually
help with the SRU), it can be discussed. As Jackson, I don't
personally think it as a realistic thing to do at the moment
either.<br>
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Pasi<br>
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On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone
backporting it all the way to precise</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Roberto
J Dohnert <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Aside from the trusty
enablment stack, the only other compelling piece would be
XFCE 4.12, which I cant seem to get a precise, no pun
intended, release date. Releasing the trusty kernel
through updates would be optimal. Of course, we, the
Black Lab Linux team, are supporting 12.04 for two years
past the scheduled Ubuntu support date until 2019. So, we
may do a 14.10 stack as our last major release, we may
work on that for Xubuntu as well. But that will be
determined on where 14.04 LTS is at that time.<br>
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Roberto J. Dohnert<br>
Lead Developer<br>
Black Lab Linux<br>
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<div>On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:<br>
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<div>If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can
just release 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that have
landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On the other hand, if
there is something we want in, it's another
possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just updates.<br>
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I would note that there is only 1 year left of Xubuntu
support for 12.04, so not sure if it makes any
difference to land big SRU's now, since people need to
upgrade to 14.04 somewhat shortly anyway.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:<br>
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<div>FYI</div>
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<div>How does this align with our planning?</div>
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<div>Stephen Michael Kellat </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> Leann Ogasawara <<a
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<b>Date:</b> February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> <b>[RFC] 12.04.5</b><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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<div>With 12.04.4 having just released, I wanted
to propose the idea of having a 12.04.5 point
release for Precise.</div>
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<div>As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point
releases have shipped with a newer kernel and
X stack by default for hardware enablement
purposes. Maintainers of these enablement
stacks have agreed to support these until a
Trusty based enablement stack is supported in
Precise. Once a Trusty enablement stack is
supported, all previous enablement stacks
would EOL and be asked to migrate to the final
Trusty based enablement stack which would
continue to be supported for the remaining
life of Precise.</div>
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<div>Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point
release for Precise. 12.04.4 shipped with a
Saucy enablement stack by default. This Saucy
enablement stack in Precise will eventually
EOL in favor of the Trusty enablement stack.
Once that happens, our final point release
for Precise will be delivering an EOL'd
enablement stack. This seems unfortunate and
inappropriate. I would like to propose having
a 5th point release for Precise which would
deliver the Trusty enablement stack for
Precise.</div>
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<div>Providing a 12.04.5 point release will add
no additional maintenance burden upon teams
supporting enablement stacks in Precise. It
would require some extra effort on part of the
Canonical Foundations Team as well as the
Ubuntu Release Team to spin up an additional
set of images and testing coordination etc.
However, I informally discussed this with a
few members of each of those teams and the
tentative agreement was that 12.04.5 was a
reasonable request which could be
accommodated. Collectively we could find no
compelling reason to not provide 12.04.5. We
also discussed that a 12.04.5 release should
be optional for the Flavors to participate in.
Additionally, we would want to purposely
avoid clashing the 14.04.1 and 12.04.5 release
dates and would suggest releasing 14.04.1
first and 12.04.5 after (exact date TBD).</div>
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<div>What are other's thoughts here? Does
anyone have a compelling reason for not
providing a 12.04.5 point release?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Leann</div>
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