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12.04.4 ISO installation testing looks good from a test case
perspective (my experience). As stated below by Pasi, it would be
possible to handle 12.04.4 to "12.04.5" via package updates and
leave it alone for the most part.<br>
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So, I'd rather see effort put in the customer migration of 12.04.x
to 14.04 (combination of documentation, automation, and manual
process). Moving from current LTS to new LTS has a higher payoff
for all concerned.<br>
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Richard<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/07/2014 02:09 PM, Pasi Lallinaho
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If there is enough interest and
motivation from the community (including people who can actually
help with the SRU), it can be discussed. As Jackson, I don't
personally think it as a realistic thing to do at the moment
either.<br>
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Pasi<br>
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On 07/02/14 22:03, Jackson Doak wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">4.12 will be difficult to get to 14.04, let alone
backporting it all the way to precise</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:01 AM,
Roberto J Dohnert <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div> Aside from the trusty enablment stack, the only
other compelling piece would be XFCE 4.12, which I cant
seem to get a precise, no pun intended, release date.
Releasing the trusty kernel through updates would be
optimal. Of course, we, the Black Lab Linux team, are
supporting 12.04 for two years past the scheduled Ubuntu
support date until 2019. So, we may do a 14.10 stack as
our last major release, we may work on that for Xubuntu
as well. But that will be determined on where 14.04 LTS
is at that time.<br>
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Roberto J. Dohnert<br>
Lead Developer<br>
Black Lab Linux<br>
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<div>On 02/07/2014 02:30 PM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:<br>
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<div>If we don't need to update the ISO really, we can
just release 12.04.5 as is, with the updates that
have landed to Ubuntu core after .4. On the other
hand, if there is something we want in, it's another
possibility to get stuff in an ISO, not just
updates.<br>
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I would note that there is only 1 year left of
Xubuntu support for 12.04, so not sure if it makes
any difference to land big SRU's now, since people
need to upgrade to 14.04 somewhat shortly anyway.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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On 07/02/14 20:12, Stephen Michael Kellat wrote:<br>
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<div>FYI</div>
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<div>How does this align with our planning?</div>
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<div>Stephen Michael Kellat </div>
<div>In the basement cafeteria on lunch<br>
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<div><b>From:</b> Leann Ogasawara <<a
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target="_blank">leann.ogasawara@canonical.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> February 7, 2014, 11:00:12 AM EST<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com"
target="_blank">ubuntu-release@lists.ubuntu.com</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>[RFC] 12.04.5</b><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi All,
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<div>With 12.04.4 having just released, I
wanted to propose the idea of having a
12.04.5 point release for Precise.</div>
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<div>As many are aware, recent 12.04.x point
releases have shipped with a newer kernel
and X stack by default for hardware
enablement purposes. Maintainers of these
enablement stacks have agreed to support
these until a Trusty based enablement stack
is supported in Precise. Once a Trusty
enablement stack is supported, all previous
enablement stacks would EOL and be asked to
migrate to the final Trusty based enablement
stack which would continue to be supported
for the remaining life of Precise.</div>
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<div>Currently, 12.04.4 is our final point
release for Precise. 12.04.4 shipped with a
Saucy enablement stack by default. This
Saucy enablement stack in Precise will
eventually EOL in favor of the Trusty
enablement stack. Once that happens, our
final point release for Precise will be
delivering an EOL'd enablement stack. This
seems unfortunate and inappropriate. I
would like to propose having a 5th point
release for Precise which would deliver the
Trusty enablement stack for Precise.</div>
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<div>Providing a 12.04.5 point release will
add no additional maintenance burden upon
teams supporting enablement stacks in
Precise. It would require some extra effort
on part of the Canonical Foundations Team as
well as the Ubuntu Release Team to spin up
an additional set of images and testing
coordination etc. However, I informally
discussed this with a few members of each of
those teams and the tentative agreement was
that 12.04.5 was a reasonable request which
could be accommodated. Collectively we
could find no compelling reason to not
provide 12.04.5. We also discussed that a
12.04.5 release should be optional for the
Flavors to participate in. Additionally, we
would want to purposely avoid clashing the
14.04.1 and 12.04.5 release dates and would
suggest releasing 14.04.1 first and 12.04.5
after (exact date TBD).</div>
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<div>What are other's thoughts here? Does
anyone have a compelling reason for not
providing a 12.04.5 point release?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Leann</div>
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