<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Im testing in a desktop with an AMD Duron 1.6, 256mb of ram (minus 64 from integrated SIS graphics).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD keep loading for ever, I waited for 30 min and the live sesion never showed. I guess 256mn of ram is not the minimun for the live cd. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Lubuntu 13.10 Alternate CD: Boots and install without problems, run a little slow but is tolerable.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I think that Xubuntu should keep building the Alternate images, at least for the i386 architechture, which I guess, are the slowest system that may need Xubuntu.</div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 4:03 AM, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi@shimmerproject.org> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container">On 28/11/13 09:28, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote:<br clear="none">> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Richard Elkins<br clear="none">> <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:richard.elkins@gmail.com" href="mailto:richard.elkins@gmail.com">richard.elkins@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> Will,<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Not to discourage you .....<br clear="none">> Uh oh, no response, I fear we may have scared him off :)<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>> Performance test plan?<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> Goals/design<br clear="none">>> Individual tests<br clear="none">>> What do you intend to hold constant and what will you vary?<br clear="none">>> VM host machine environment E.g. hardware CPU/GPU/chip-sets, Linux kernel<br clear="none">>> video module, X-Windows video driver<br clear="none">>> VM settings to be used (chipset, EFI, display, etc.)<br clear="none">> These are very good points so in an attempt to move this along...<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> I'll start off by saying that we do now recommend a user have 512M of<br clear="none">> RAM once it's installed, which might be OK.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Also worthy of note, we offer 32 and 64-bit versions. 64-bit tends to<br clear="none">> take more RAM so we'll want to pay attention to that.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Now, I'd like to propose the following testing plan that it would be<br clear="none">> great to see results from a few folks for to test a random smattering<br clear="none">> of CPUs and other factors:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Test 1: 12.04 Alternate CD, 32 & 64-bit<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Our website claims you can install 12.04 Alternate on 64M of RAM, I'm<br clear="none">> skeptical but we should start here :)<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Use the 12.04 Alternate CD installer on a VM with 64M of RAM and a<br clear="none">> single CPU - I suspect the installer will finish but will it even<br clear="none">> boot?<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> If not, add RAM by increments of 64M of RAM until you get a system<br clear="none">> that boots and you can log in to.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Report results (remember, we say 512M once it's installed, so if it's<br clear="none">> slow that might be ok)<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Test 2: 12.04 Live CD, 32 & 64-bit<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Our website claims you can install 12.04 standard on 256M of RAM, this<br clear="none">> may be possible - let's try! Same methodology as above.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Test 3: 13.10 Live CD, 32 & 64-bit<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Did 12.04 work on 256M? Can 13.10 as well? Let's try! Same methodology as above.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> These tests will take time, so if you want to just do one of these<br clear="none">> tests - great, reply with your results of that one test and enjoy your<br clear="none">> week! Every test done will be helpful in determining where we stand.<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Thanks everyone.<br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ultimately we might want to see what the requirements for the installed<br clear="none">"core" system would be once we progress with that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Cheers,<br clear="none">Pasi<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ť <a shape="rect" href="http://open.knome.fi/" target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a><br clear="none">Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu ť <a shape="rect" href="http://shimmerproject.org/" target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a><br clear="none">Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member ť <a shape="rect" href="http://xubuntu.org/" target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a><div class="yqt5800534054" id="yqtfd85811"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">xubuntu-devel mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>