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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For what it's worth, I completely agree
on the editor.<br>
I would think, if a user needs more capability it's highly likely
that he/she knows how to get it and has a personal preference
anyway. For out-of-the-box use Mousepad with the described new
features seems just right.<br>
The base Xbuntu install should IMHO be pretty basic with focus on
stability. I don't think Xubuntu should be everything to everybody
in the core install configuration. Adding stuff is easier than
taking it out.<br>
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On 11/07/2013 08:49 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree this got off track. Here's
what I think:<br>
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Instead of discussing the target audience, we should keep in
mind what the usage for an application, in this case, Mousepad,
is.<br>
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From my point of view, Mousepad is to provide a simple text
editor to edit some configuration files and possibly some simple
text files. The newest Mousepad version does support 1) tabs 2)
syntax highlighting 3) color schemes (and there has been support
for text wrapping and line numbers for a long time). These alone
make Mousepad even a bit superfluous for the reason and usecase
we are including Mousepad.<br>
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If you need features that Mousepad do not have, you probably
want to install a preferred editor anyway. It is likely that
there will be no consensus if we start arguing over which
advanced editor is "the best". Ultimately, I don't think Xubuntu
lacks at all if we don't ship such editor.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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P.S. Yes, the Strategy Document should say Mousepad, not
Leafpad.<br>
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On 07/11/13 14:58, Richard Elkins wrote:<br>
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The choice of default text editor should be based on the target audience for the release which has evolved since the first 'buntu, quite
a bit. Who is the target audience nowadays? Or, should we default in one for simple note-padding and one with a lot of engineering capabilities?
Keep in mind that they are both low on dependencies, relative to other packages.
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/07/2013 05:55 AM, Eero
Tamminen wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
On keskiviikko 06 marraskuu 2013, Joshua O'Leary wrote:
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<pre wrap="">It mentions C++ programs as being unsuitable, but this is clearly not the
case as core components (such as apt and software-centre, and now even
gcc) are coded in C++
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<pre wrap="">Also all browsers use C++, from Dillo to Firefox
(Gecko and Webkit HTML engines are coded in C++,
even if the GUI toolkit wouldn't use C++).
- Eero
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