<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree this got off track. Here's what I think: Instead of discussing the target audience, we should keep in mind what the usage for an application, in this case, Mousepad, is. From my point of view, Mousepad is to provide a simple text editor to edit some configuration files and possibly some simple text files. The newest Mousepad version does support 1) tabs 2) syntax highlighting 3) color schemes (and there has been support for text wrapping and line numbers for a long time). These alone make Mousepad even a bit superfluous for the reason and usecase we are including Mousepad. If you need features that Mousepad do not have, you probably want to install a preferred editor anyway. It is likely that there will be no consensus if we start arguing over which advanced editor is "the best". Ultimately, I don't think Xubuntu lacks at all if we don't ship such editor. Cheers, Pasi P.S. Yes, the Strategy Document should say Mousepad, not Leafpad. On 07/11/13 14:58, Richard Elkins wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:527B8E62.80208@gmail.com" type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I think that the discussion got off track. A good engineer's editor probably supports any language - it does for me. The choice of default text editor should be based on the target audience for the release which has evolved since the first 'buntu, quite a bit. Who is the target audience nowadays? Or, should we default in one for simple note-padding and one with a lot of engineering capabilities? Keep in mind that they are both low on dependencies, relative to other packages. </pre> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/07/2013 05:55 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:201311071355.57878.oak@helsinkinet.fi" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi, On keskiviikko 06 marraskuu 2013, Joshua O'Leary wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">It mentions C++ programs as being unsuitable, but this is clearly not the case as core components (such as apt and software-centre, and now even gcc) are coded in C++ </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">Also all browsers use C++, from Dillo to Firefox (Gecko and Webkit HTML engines are coded in C++, even if the GUI toolkit wouldn't use C++). - Eero </pre> </blockquote> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> </blockquote> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a> Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a> Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre> </body> </html>