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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/10/13 00:26, Pasi Lallinaho
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">As Jackson said, 'sudo apt-get
        autoremove' would take care of cleaning old kernels. I don't use
        GUI package managers, but I suspect they have similar
        functionality.<br>
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        Automated methods, even those who'd notify the user and
        confirmed if they wanted to remove old kernels, are problematic.
        What if the user didn't know what a kernel is? Can we check that
        the user hasn't actually used these kernels in the last n days?<br>
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        I'm not saying I'm against a automated, user-controlled method,
        but it's probably best to discuss that on a larger scale for all
        flavors. Something might even be in the works.<br>
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        Cheers,<br>
        Pasi<br>
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        On 18/10/13 02:10, Bruno Benitez wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default">I do not either, but it would be
            nice if there where an option somewhere to let people clean
            it and choose the amount of kernels they want to keep or a
            particular one, or something like that. Like if the user
            would search for the kernels on synaptic and choose the ones
            to remove or keep, but simplified<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/17 Pasi Lallinaho <span
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote"> I don't think we should
              remove anything from the users' system without<br>
              his/her approval either.<br>
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                Pasi<br>
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                  On 18/10/13 00:03, Jackson Doak wrote:<br>
                  > Running "apt-get dist-upgrade" or "apt-get
                  autoremove" normally fixes<br>
                  > that, but it's an issue none the less<br>
                  ><br>
                  > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Benoit <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:frombenny@aliceadsl.fr">frombenny@aliceadsl.fr</a>>

                  wrote:<br>
                  >> I won't participate as for any irc meeting
                  (I'm French and the discussion is<br>
                  >> too quick for me).<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> But I want to point out an issue especially
                  for a LTS version of Xubuntu.<br>
                  >> The update manager should wipe older kernels
                  (keep only the last 3). When a<br>
                  >> version must work for a that long period,
                  with old computers with not that<br>
                  >> much space available, 250MB times 20 or 30
                  old kernels still installed on<br>
                  >> that machines !!! It broke the system for
                  some of those 12.04LTS I followed<br>
                  >> up.<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Cheers,<br>
                  >> Benoit<br>
                  >><br>
                  >> Le 17/10/2013 20:50, Pasi Lallinaho a écrit :<br>
                  >>> Hey,<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> the next Xubuntu community meeting is at<br>
                  >>>     Thursday, October 24 at 15UTC<br>
                  >>> on #xubuntu-devel on the Freenode IRC
                  network.<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> Agenda is in the Xubuntu wiki [1]. As
                  usual, feel free to add items to<br>
                  >>> agenda as long as you are willing to
                  outline and lead the discussion.<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> Cheers,<br>
                  >>> Pasi<br>
                  >>><br>
                  >>> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings"
                    target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings</a><br>
                  >>><br>
                  >> --<br>
                  >> xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
                  >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
                    target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br>
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          Bruno.-<br>
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    Have to agree with this.<br>
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    I'm not sure that this should be a Xubuntu discussion.<br>
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    Apart from anything else - why remove kernels automatically -
    someone might want them there. <br>
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    In addition to that - who'd do the work, make sure it was maintained
    etc.<br>
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    Elfy<br>
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