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    All that answers are for guys like us. We can manage that issues. <br>
    <br>
    But for a newcomer, who only uses the Ubuntu Software Center, with
    no skils at all about the command line,.. He just doesn't know he
    should have to maintain his distribution other than accept the
    frequent updates...<br>
    <br>
    I have 4 relatives who have a Xubuntu I had installed for them. They
    are only users. They won't go inside the system to know how it works
    because in their former MSWindows environment it wasn't possible...
    What size of system partition I should prepare to keep 5 years of
    update ? Some of that relatives won't show up till next LTS
    release... or a fix to make (Xubuntu works fine except that issue
    and window decorator for one of the installations).<br>
    <br>
    Most of that kernels won't be used anymore... For Ubuntu studio, we
    can keep 3 generic kernels, 3 real time kernels,..<br>
    <br>
    Benoit<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 18/10/2013 11:27, Joan Advincula a
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        <div>Something like BleachBit?<br>
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        - Joan<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Bruno
          Benitez <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:gridcube@gmail.com" target="_blank">gridcube@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                do not either, but it would be nice if there where an
                option somewhere to let people clean it and choose the
                amount of kernels they want to keep or a particular one,
                or something like that. Like if the user would search
                for the kernels on synaptic and choose the ones to
                remove or keep, but simplified<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/17 Pasi Lallinaho <span
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                        href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org"
                        target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span><br>
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                      I don't think we should remove anything from the
                      users' system without<br>
                      his/her approval either.<br>
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                          Pasi<br>
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                          On 18/10/13 00:03, Jackson Doak wrote:<br>
                          > Running "apt-get dist-upgrade" or
                          "apt-get autoremove" normally fixes<br>
                          > that, but it's an issue none the less<br>
                          ><br>
                          > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Benoit
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:frombenny@aliceadsl.fr"
                            target="_blank">frombenny@aliceadsl.fr</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
                          >> I won't participate as for any irc
                          meeting (I'm French and the discussion is<br>
                          >> too quick for me).<br>
                          >><br>
                          >> But I want to point out an issue
                          especially for a LTS version of Xubuntu.<br>
                          >> The update manager should wipe older
                          kernels (keep only the last 3). When a<br>
                          >> version must work for a that long
                          period, with old computers with not that<br>
                          >> much space available, 250MB times 20
                          or 30 old kernels still installed on<br>
                          >> that machines !!! It broke the system
                          for some of those 12.04LTS I followed<br>
                          >> up.<br>
                          >><br>
                          >> Cheers,<br>
                          >> Benoit<br>
                          >><br>
                          >> Le 17/10/2013 20:50, Pasi Lallinaho a
                          écrit :<br>
                          >>> Hey,<br>
                          >>><br>
                          >>> the next Xubuntu community
                          meeting is at<br>
                          >>>     Thursday, October 24 at 15UTC<br>
                          >>> on #xubuntu-devel on the Freenode
                          IRC network.<br>
                          >>><br>
                          >>> Agenda is in the Xubuntu wiki
                          [1]. As usual, feel free to add items to<br>
                          >>> agenda as long as you are willing
                          to outline and lead the discussion.<br>
                          >>><br>
                          >>> Cheers,<br>
                          >>> Pasi<br>
                          >>><br>
                          >>> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings"
                            target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings</a><br>
                          >>><br>
                          >> --<br>
                          >> xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
                          >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"
                            target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
                          >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
                            target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br>
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                          --<br>
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                      <div>Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      »
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://open.knome.fi/" target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a><br>
                        Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://shimmerproject.org/"
                          target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a><br>
                        Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://xubuntu.org/" target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a><br>
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                          xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"
                            target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
                            target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br>
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                  Bruno.-<br>
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            xubuntu-devel mailing list<br>
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            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel"
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          <div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font>Joan
                Advincula</font><br>
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                href="http://twitter.com/iamMJae" target="_blank">@iamMJae</a>
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