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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/07/13 23:18, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
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<div>Hi again,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:14 PM,
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Please share details here on the list so the conversation
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one place :) so I'd put together a proposal for
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px">I
have sent that already 5 days ago but never mind :0</div>
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<div class="im"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">I think
it's pretty late in the cycle for a major change like
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<div>Hmm, I'm sorry to ask too much and cause headache but,
what makes you think it is pretty late in the cycle and
what makes you think this is a major change? why to wait
for the next cycle?</div>
<div>True I'm not even close to be a developer but what
impact that one tiny package could do?</div>
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It's almost Alpha 2. Taking the time to write the detailed
specification, others reading it and once it done, testing it will
take time. At that point it's pretty much too late to work on any
possible regressions.<br>
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Yes sure, there shouldn't be any, but we can't build our OS
blindfolded, closing our eyes to any possible negative things.<br>
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<div>I'd really appreciate if you explain to me why it is
too late :)</div>
<div>IMHO, this is not a major change but that is only me.</div>
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It covers every Xubuntu installation. While it might be trivial
technically, it is still a major change.<br>
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<div class="im"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">so </span><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">I'd put together a
proposal for discussion when we're working out our</span></div>
roadmap for the next release. To do this, you'll want to
put together<br>
a wiki page with rationale, how you feel this change is in
line with<br>
our Strategy Document[0] and what work would need to be
done to<br>
support this (this is the standard procedure for proposing
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<div>I can do this right now. Unless of course everyone else
agrees with you that it is too late for this cycle and
this needs to be discussed later.<br>
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As Elizabeth says in the next paragraph, you are free to work on it
already, but decisions about it will be made later, at the beginning
of the next cycle.<br>
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you want to write this wiki page now and discuss it, a new
thread<br>
would be best for that but feedback may be limited at this
point in<br>
the cycle as our devs are focused on other things.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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If truth to be told, I'd like to do it now and I'd like to
understand why we need to wait :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hmm, maybe if I explain more about how
this change will help Xubuntu a lot, will that change anything
about trying out this now? since we are still in Alpha Stage.
Please, advise! </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Many thanks!</div>
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