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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/07/13 16:23, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <span
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<div class="im">On 11/07/13 14:52, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
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testing is not everything. When you are dealing with
an Operating System, there are many other tasks beside
Testing and IMHO, all of these tasks are important<br>
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Sure, but there's a reason why there are several teams and
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<div>Of course there is a reason :D that is a team, not a
one-man-project after all. This is a community and
everyone work as a team and that is called team work.
All that, is understood :)</div>
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<div style="">I'm not going to do everything by myself - I
have learned it the hard way for the last two years
(please, don't get it wrong, I am not saying I was doing
everything previously, I am just staying I have done so
many tasks and spent long hours days and nights with no
rest so I overdid it.) - therefore, I am not going to
repeat that :)</div>
<div>However, may I just know why:</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">(And
we won't let you.)<br>
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<div style="">I'm sorry if I'm asking too much but I'd like
to learn and understand how things work here.</div>
<div style="">So, even though I'm willing to do something
else beside testing, you won't let me? :D why? just
curious :) kind of limitation? normal procedure here? or
something else?</div>
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This means I want to see your contributions on one area first.
That's a more valuable contribution than doing a bit here and
another there.<br>
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There is no limitations here, but please try to understand that the
right way to build trust amongst the community is to start small.<br>
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is probably the area where we need the most help, and
since you are familiar with that, it's the ideal area for
you to start working on. Please focus on that for the time
being.<br>
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<div style="">If you insist, then what shall I say? </div>
<div style="">Ok then :)</div>
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still don't see much else than you being in a hurry. Calm
down. You can't rush getting to know people – while you
might feel like you do, the feeling has to be mutual.<br>
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Well, maybe that is me and I can't change that easily ;) I
will try :)</div>
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to see your contributions with the testing team,</blockquote>
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<div style="">Does this mean: "Welcome to the team"? since I
haven't read that so far? :)</div>
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As I've said before, all contributions are welcome, thus: welcome to
the community.<br>
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(With teams we have a contributions first, membership then -policy.
Don't worry about that too much. If you contribute, you will sooner
or later get the memberships and eventually, a possible Xubuntu team
membership. To read more about this policy, look into our Strategy
Document [1].)<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a>
Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a>
Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre>
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