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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hey Kyle (readding Xubuntu-devel to
"To", please keep it with any messages you're sending, especially
if you want to get feedback from "all"),<br>
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The main problem with that kind of navigation setup is that it
isn't trivial to support variable amount of links. To be honest,
that's been a bit of burden with the current "graphical" links as
well, and I want to get away from that. Since the links are here
in the navigation, I don't think there's any need to repeat them
again on the right hand side.<br>
<br>
I don't think the "Desktop of the Week" -section should get that
much focus. (And generally, if you're not using the area left and
right to an element, why not just stretch it to 100% width,
especially when there is a known max width for the layout?)<br>
<br>
Other than that, the layout is pretty much what we have now on
production.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
<br>
On 28/05/13 16:43, Kyle Sabara wrote:<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Here's
like a plan that I made by cutting and pasting around the
different parts of a screenshot. What do you all think?</span><br>
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<img src="cid:part1.06070309.07080806@shimmerproject.org"
alt="Inline image 1" height="671" width="519"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Kyle
Sabara <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nyguy97@gmail.com" target="_blank">nyguy97@gmail.com</a>></span>
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On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Pasi Lallinaho <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org"
target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hey Kyle (and others),<br>
<br>
I was able to work on the website refresh
yesterday and there's now a mockup of
navigation. Currently, it looks like this: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/saucy_website/newnavi.png"
target="_blank">http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/saucy_website/newnavi.png</a><br>
<br>
This is in no way final, so please send your
ideas if you think you can improve.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Pasi
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On 27/05/13 05:37, Kyle Sabara wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the information,
I guess I'll start thinking up some
ideas for a navbar. I really hope to
gain some valuable experience. Again,
thank you!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On Sat, May
25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org"
target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hey Kyle,<br>
<br>
I'm adding the Xubuntu-devel mailing
list to the recipients, since that's
where we cooperate development
discussion for Xubuntu.<br>
<br>
Comments inline.<br>
<br>
On 25/05/13 18:50, Kyle Sabara
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hello,<br>
My name is Kyle Sabara and I
would like to work with your
Xubuntu<br>
web team.<br>
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<br>
First of all, thanks for your
interest!<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> I'm 15
but I can assure you I know how to
code CSS and HTML5.<br>
I hold 2 certifications, one in
Adobe Photoshop CS5, as well as
one in<br>
Adobe Dreamweaver CS5. I'd like to
also note that I am going for my<br>
Adobe Flash CS5 certification and
hope to get it soon. I like linux
and<br>
most important to me is the XFCE
flavor that I do run on an old PC.
I do<br>
have some works on the web, in
fact I'm going to Nationals in
California<br>
this year for FBLA in the Web
Design event. I know, you think
just<br>
because I have a Dreamweaver
certification means I don't
actually know<br>
how to code what-so-ever, but I
actually always code with
Notepad++<br>
because I don't like the drag and
drop software environment that<br>
Dreamweaver creates, along with
the annoying bugs you sometimes
have to<br>
comb your document for.<br>
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<br>
Don't worry; we don't judge people
based on their age or certificates
they may or may not have. All
contributions are welcome as long as
they make sense and the community
can agree on the results they bring
with them.<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> I already
have a couple ways for integration
of social networking<br>
into your site. One way would be
to add a Twitter app where you
have<br>
Xubuntu Twitter Feed on your site,
perhaps on the homepage? Another<br>
thing you can add to increase
Xubuntu's networking would be to
add a<br>
Facebook Like button, a Google+
button, and a Twitter button if
you will<br>
which I'm not sure if you know
this but a Twitter button is
included on<br>
the Twitter Feed you can
integrate.<br>
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<br>
This is something the
web/marketing/Xubuntu team should
discuss in general.<br>
<br>
So far we haven't specifically
worked to get much of the social
networking showing on the site. This
is partly because we only recently
set up most of the social networking
sites. On the other hand, while the
social networking outlets are
"official", they are community-run
and we aren't controlling their
content too much. While we trust the
administrators, it's not certain
that all communication and comments
made on the social networks is
something we want to automatically
integrate to our website.<br>
<br>
If we decide to add things like
this, it should be easy enough with
existing WordPress plugins.<br>
<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Also, I'd
like to point out that you guys
don't really have a full<br>
navigation bar on your site making
a lack in usability.<br>
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<br>
We are constantly working on the
site and even as I write this mail,
we're under process for improvements
on the site. However, all feedback
is welcome: do you have any mockups
or ideas for the navigation bar?<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Another<br>
suggestion I have is that you can
add more pictures to your site in
the<br>
tour and inside the changing image
slider on the homepage; because<br>
people really want to see you
glorify the project and most of
all,<br>
potential users need to know the
look and feel of the software, and<br>
pictures of the Xubuntu user
interface are a good way to go.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I agree!<br>
<br>
As long as somebody takes more
screenshots which are recent, we're
good to add them. In addition, we're
working to make the frontpage slider
images slightly bigger with the next
website update.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> I hope
some<br>
of these ideas show some of the
creative skills I can contribute
to the<br>
team.<br>
I feel like getting involved
in this project can help me build
a<br>
portfolio and help me in my
future.I am a technology
enthusiast and I<br>
love coding HTML. I don't claim to
know everything but I would love
to<br>
expand my knowledge by
contributing some work for an open
source<br>
organization where anyone can get
involved and share ideas.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Open source can definitely help with
your CV as long as it isn't your
only (or primary) goal.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Thank you
again for taking time out of your
lives to read this<br>
statement.<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Kyle Sabara<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
About joining teams and getting
access to resources: we generally
have a "contributions before
membership" policy. In other words,
start following development
discussions, get familiar with the
community processes and people and
when you've been around a while, get
your hands dirty [1].<br>
<br>
Welcome to our community!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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href="http://xubuntu.org/contribute/"
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» <a
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href="http://open.knome.fi/"
target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a><br>
Leader of Shimmer Project and
Xubuntu » <a
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href="http://shimmerproject.org/"
target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a><br>
Graphic artist, webdesigner,
Ubuntu member » <a
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href="http://xubuntu.org/"
target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a><br>
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