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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hey Ali,<br>
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      I'm sorry, but I think you've gotten the message wrong. Let me try
      to rephrase for you.<br>
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      There is no "attitude" towards other members of Ubuntu here. This
      is simply the wrong mailing list for Lubuntu-related messages and
      that's why I asked you to stop sending them. <br>
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      I did read the wiki page and I noticed it only mentions Xubuntu.
      If you had some specific idea or proposal to Xubuntu instead of
      just covering Lubuntu in the wiki page, the situation would be
      different.<br>
      <br>
      If you wanted to make it a project that spans across the flavors,
      I think you should have branded it differently, eg. not calling it
      "WOW Lubuntu" or "Start Lubuntu".<br>
      <br>
      I'm sorry for not replying to your team membership request. If you
      had read the Xubuntu Strategy Document [1] you would have noticed
      that we have processes which one must follow to become a Xubuntu
      team member. One of the requirements to be approved to the team is
      actual contributions. A similar process applies to the Xubuntu
      subteams.<br>
      <br>
      We do accept people from other teams to join us and we are willing
      to cooperate with them. However, I haven't heard any specific
      ideas how you'd like to help Xubuntu specifically.<br>
      <br>
      I wish you all the best with your marketing effort for Lubuntu.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
      Pasi<br>
      <br>
      P.S. Yes, I'm the Xubuntu Project Lead.<br>
      <br>
      [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu_Team">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu_Team</a><br>
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      On 29/04/13 22:10, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Hi,<br>
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                  You must be the head of Developers for Xubuntu, right?<br>
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                I'm surprised you guys have such kind of attitude to
                other members of the same family. If I'm not wrong, you
                guys use Ubuntu Core System and it is just the DE and
                the application that is different. This is not the kind
                of attitude Ubuntu Community must have. Where is the
                community spirit?<br>
                <br>
                I have sent an email before to join your team and you
                did not show up nor replied. Now, you are asking me to
                not sending emails that is Lubuntu Related which is not
                100% Lubuntu Related :) if you took the time to have a
                look, you would understand.<br>
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              So, I will take this email from you as: We don't accept
              active members from Lubuntu and we don't need your help
              and contribution :)<br>
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            Thank you for your kind email :)<br>
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              href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad</a><br>
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          @Jackson<br>
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        Sorry mate, I thought I could help but I got the answer already
        :)<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Pasi
          Lallinaho <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org" target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span>
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              <div>Please stop sending Lubuntu-related messages to the
                Xubuntu developer mailing list.<br>
                <br>
                Thank you,<br>
                Pasi
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                    On 29/04/13 17:54, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>Hi,<br>
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                                        I thought everyone would be
                                        interested but I must say, I'm
                                        so surprised that only few are
                                        interested.<br>
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                                      Anyway, I have updated this page:
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartLubuntu"
                                        target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartLubuntu</a><br>
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                                    Added Phase 6<br>
                                    and List of members.<br>
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                                  Phase 6 will explain how this project
                                  is important and it is not only for
                                  Lubuntu, it is for the whole family of
                                  Ubuntu :)<br>
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                                After all, if Windows XP Users won't
                                like Lubuntu, there are Ubuntu, Kubuntu,
                                Xubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu Studio,
                                Edubuntu, and if someone is Chines,
                                there is: <span>UbuntuKylin :)<br>
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                              <span>Everything is explained here: <a
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartLubuntu"
                                  target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartLubuntu</a><br>
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                            <span>The banner at the top is a summary of
                              what is this all about.<br>
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                          <span>Again, Phase 6 of this project is
                            discussing the need to use the whole list of
                            Ubuntu Official Variants.<br>
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                        <span>Why then I did start or pick Lubuntu?
                          because I think most or at least 40% of
                          Windows XP Users have old machines. Perhaps
                          even more than 40% of them because usually,
                          modern machines are shipped with Windows 7
                          and/or Windows 8 :)<br>
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                      <span>Thank you!<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at
                        5:10 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                  <div>Dear all,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    As promised, I'm just done from
                                    setting up a Wiki Page for our huge
                                    project and great challenge:<br>
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu/StartLubuntu"
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                                  I was waiting for 13.04 to be
                                  released.<br>
                                  Now, the successful 13.04 has been
                                  released, I'm glad to announce that
                                  I'm 100% up, running and ready for
                                  this.<br>
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                                Your are more than welcome to join!<br>
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                              Must head to bed, it is 5:10am here :D<br>
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                            Thank you!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,<br>
                                                      <a
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/" target="_blank">amjjawad</a></span></b><br>
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu#The_Huge_Project_-_Start_Lubuntu"
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style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Start Lubuntu</span></a><br>
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                                style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best
                                Regards,<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/"
                                  target="_blank">amjjawad</a></span></b><br>
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                              style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Start Lubuntu</span></a><br>
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                  <pre cols="72">-- 
Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      » <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://open.knome.fi/" target="_blank">http://open.knome.fi/</a>
Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://shimmerproject.org/" target="_blank">http://shimmerproject.org/</a>
Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://xubuntu.org/" target="_blank">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre>
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                  style="color:rgb(11,83,148)">Best Regards,<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/"
                    target="_blank">amjjawad</a></span></b><br>
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          <span style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif"><a
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href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommunicationsTeam/WOWLubuntu#The_Huge_Project_-_Start_Lubuntu"
              target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)">Start
                Lubuntu</span></a><br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a>
Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a>
Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a></pre>
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