<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>"Xubuntu is a fast and light operating system alternative. Xubuntu can be run on the latest and greatest hardware as well as extending the lifespan of last generation's hardware that would otherwise be destined for the scrap yard."</div><div> </div><div>Or one for the financial department:</div><div>"Increase your ROI on hardware purchases by extending their lifetime, without compromising any functionality. Xubuntu has been tested on hardware that is current, and many generations old. Xubuntu has been proven successful in extending hardware refresh cycles by up to 300%"</div><div> </div><div>"Throwing away a computer is like throwing away money. Let Xubuntu save you money! Same functionality no matter what hardware platform you install it on." Allan Button<div>Network Operations Team</div></div><div> On 2011-10-30, at 4:13 PM, "Pasi Lallinaho" <<a href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>> wrote: </div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 10/30/2011 10:03 PM, Eero Tamminen wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Hi, </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On sunnuntai 30 lokakuu 2011, Pasi Lallinaho wrote: </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On 10/30/2011 01:29 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach wrote: </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@beardygnome.co.uk">xubuntu-devel@beardygnome.co.uk</a>> wrote: </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"It works well on a bit older hardware too." doesn't really read too </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">well in English. I'd suggest either "It works well on older hardware </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">too." or "It works quite well on older hardware too." </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Actually, can we get rid of it entirely? </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On the old site we worked to remove references to Xubuntu being </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">optimized to run on older hardware because there are concerns about </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">how well it actually does out of the box - too many reviews were being </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">written with "this is supposed to be light-weight, and it's not" </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Does this refer to resource (memory, disk) consumption or </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">CPU consumption (other than paging/swapping when memory </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">gets lot)? </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">slants that weren't painting the distro in a great light. I think it </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">would be good to focus on how great of a multi-purpose distro it is in </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">general rather than mentioning older hardware and possibly setting </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">folks up for disappointment, particularly if their definition of </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">"older" differs from ours. </blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">that's an option too. I don't necessarily want to say "older hardware", </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">as many people think that it means any computer ever built. </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">On the other hand, since Xubuntu has gathered this reputation of being </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">light (whether it was true or false), it would be nice to not just </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">change the direction suddenly - at least seemingly. This is why I'd </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">like to keep it, and also since we are getting light(er) again, compared </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to Ubuntu for example. </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Any ideas on how to express that Xubuntu works with say 5-year old PC's </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">too, but probably not with anything really ancient? </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Works also with few years older hardware" </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">"Doesn't require 3d acceleration" </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">? </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Nowadays it being a more traditional desktop can also be </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a selling point as there seem to be quite a fwe people who </blockquote><blockquote type="cite">aren't too fond of the changes in Gnome3 or KDE4. </blockquote> I'm not sure if we want to use "traditional" (or "conservative") to that matter, even if that might be correct. I think many people will think "old" if one uses these words. Any ideas on other wording? The current drafted introduction can be seen at <a href="http://wp.xubuntu.org/">http://wp.xubuntu.org/</a>. Let's not make this an issue too big. Once we've got our latest changes for the theme and the slideshow plugin in, let's try to go online as soon as possible, and think of changes to that after releasing. Pasi -- Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » <a href="http://open.knome.fi/">http://open.knome.fi/</a> Leader of Xubuntu& Shimmer Project » <a href="http://shimmerproject.org/">http://shimmerproject.org/</a> Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member » <a href="http://xubuntu.org/">http://xubuntu.org/</a> -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </div></blockquote></body></html>