For everyday work whit images i've found that <a href="http://lxde.sourceforge.net/gpicview/" target="_blank">gpicview</a> from the lxde project it's actually pretty awesome, rotating an image or saving in another format is pretty quick, I don't think it can handle batch conversions or renamings tho. for the media recording programs I don't think xubuntu will ever use k3b, being kde dependant and all, and i think xfce people is working on improving xfburn, so yeah. :) <div class="gmail_quote"> 2011/7/22 James Freer <<a href="mailto:jessejazza3@aol.co.uk" target="_blank">jessejazza3@aol.co.uk</a>> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div>-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Benitez <<a href="mailto:gridcube@gmail.com" target="_blank">gridcube@gmail.com</a>> To: xubuntu-devel <<a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Sent: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:51 Subject: Replacing GIMP Hello, how is everybody? Hope you are all okay. I have always found that having GIMP as the default graphic editor for any distribution to be "too much", I am of the opinion that people get scare if then come and see so many options and floating menus and etc, so I think that Xubuntu (and any linux distro if that matters) should have a standard simple graphic editor. I think the best options today are GNU Paint and Pinta , if anything i support the second one. I think that having a simple editor will make people like the system better, also integrating it to the screen capture program could be a great idea, i know that today on the screencapture program that comes whit xubuntu an "open whit..." option appears as part of the options of what to do whit the screenshot, it could be really cool if the preselected option where "Open whit... [image editor]" and the user can choose then if to edit it, add words, cut, mark things, etc, or simply save it to a file. well i think thats pretty much it. :) thank you for reading. -- Bruno.- </div></div> In response to your post i hope it's ok to volunteer some thoughts. Having a simple editor that is inline with the xubuntu practice of minimal and simplicity is a good idea. But the application does need to work effectively. examples a] Bulk rename is fine - effective and fit-for-purpose.... i used to use kRename [now redone and rather complicated. b] dics burning xfburn and Brasero are fine... no need for k3b. c] Ristretto... poor compared with eog. eog is still lightweight but more capable. As for Gimp i find it too advanced for my photo uses and have used Imagemagick for sometime now as it fits together well with the album generator llgal. Pinta would seem a good idea. I don't know if there is another command line editor but in xubuntu the 'openterminal here' that comes up in Thunar is ideal [don't think ubuntu had this] for then running a comand line app. Just seems to fit nicely with copying pics to directories and batch rename, resize and watermark. yours james -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> -- Bruno.-