<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Browser choice is normally based on personal preference. Would it be possible to have a first run menu that asks the end user what browser they want, and what feature sets they would like?</div><div><br></div><div>This may be a step backwards, but I think of centos and anaconda asking me what packages I want by default. Something similar but simpler could help cut down on the memory footprint. </div><div><br></div><div>For me on my laptop, I don't need printing support, but would prefer firefox and thunderbird despite them being a little more memory intensive. </div><div><br></div><div>I would also be happy to drop any media application, because my laptop is just used for field work for my company. I used to uninstall openoffice when it was included too. </div><div><br></div><div>If this menu was presented after the install, then apt could be used to fetch the packages. This would free up some space on the cd, and help manage the fact that chromium updates every 6 weeks. <br><br>Allan Button</div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 2011-01-07, at 12:34 PM, Micah Gersten <<a href="mailto:micahg@ubuntu.com">micahg@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
On 01/07/2011 01:11 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Glenn de Groot<br>
> <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com">glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com</a></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com"><<a href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com">mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com</a>></a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> here are some of my thoughts:<br>
><br>
> Chromium looks really odd and alien on linux, and Midori is<br>
> unstable, so I say stick with FF.<br>
> Claws-mail is really good and lightweight, it will be a
good<br>
> thunderbird replacement.<br>
> Exaile is not bad but I like (the new) Audacious a lot.<br>
> It has a beautiful gtk interface and is the most
lightweight<br>
> player I have seen.<br>
><br>
> Also, has lightdm ever been considered?<br>
> It seems to be awesome and much lighter then gdm.<br>
> Lxdm is good too.<br>
><br>
> -Glenn<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> If you haven't seen the latest issue, Linux Journal has a
quick look<br>
> at some alternate desktop environments, and the first one
featured<br>
> is Xfce on Xubuntu. The primary* thing that they noted was
that the<br>
> default Xubuntu install ran with 325mb of RAM used, while
Ubuntu's<br>
> default RAM usage after boot-up was 328mb (by contrast,
Lubuntu used<br>
> just 167mb of RAM). They actually suggested using Ubuntu
with<br>
> lighter-weight apps (i.e., Installing Ubuntu and replacing
Rhythmbox<br>
> with Exaile, etc.) over using Xubuntu. (Note that they
didn't<br>
> *dislike* Xubuntu, but just thought it wasn't a big
advantage to use<br>
> Xfce over Gnome.)<br>
><br>
> Xubuntu may load some useful features that Lubuntu doesn't
load, but<br>
> that RAM usage number is one measuring stick that people
use. Would<br>
> it be worthwhile to consider any changes that might allow
for lesser<br>
> memory usage at boot? I'd be willing to help with testing
out<br>
> various configurations and reporting back to the group if
that would<br>
> help.<br>
><br>
> Also, I went back to look at the "Should we use Chromium?"
thread<br>
> from 2009, and a couple of things have changed since then .
. .<br>
> Chromium is now stable (it was in beta at the time), there
is a<br>
> legitimate ad-blocking extension (not just ad-hiding), and
it now<br>
> allows for community translations (meaning we wouldn't be
limited to<br>
> Google Chrome's default language set.). These were all
larger<br>
> concerns at that time.</span><br>
One problem with Chromium is that there are major updates every 6<br>
weeks, so the default will be ever changing throughout the cycle.
<br>
Firefox should only have one major update throughout the cycle.
Also,<br>
the Chromium debs are larger than the ones for Firefox.<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">><br>
> I'm indifferent on the mail application. If it means that
we could<br>
> get rid of Xulrunner (which would require switching to
Chromium and<br>
> Clawsmail), it might be worth considering switching to
Clawsmail,<br>
> too. I think yelp uses Xulrunner, though, and yelp gets
pulled in<br>
> with some of our gnome-apps, like file-roller.<br>
><br>
> Jim<br>
><br>
> *They also incorrectly ascribed the nice-looking theme to
work by<br>
> Canonical. I'll have to write a letter to the editor about
that<br>
> one. : )</span><br>
Yelp should be the only thing using xulrunner at the moment in
Xubuntu<br>
as Firefox and Thunderbird each have their own copy. If yelp is<br>
ported to webkit, then xulrunner can be dropped, but webkit will
be<br>
pulled in.<br>
<br>
Micah<br>
<br>
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