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On 01/07/2011 01:11 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Glenn de Groot<br>
> <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com">glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com"><mailto:glenn_de_groot@hotmail.com></a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> here are some of my thoughts:<br>
><br>
> Chromium looks really odd and alien on linux, and Midori is<br>
> unstable, so I say stick with FF.<br>
> Claws-mail is really good and lightweight, it will be a
good<br>
> thunderbird replacement.<br>
> Exaile is not bad but I like (the new) Audacious a lot.<br>
> It has a beautiful gtk interface and is the most
lightweight<br>
> player I have seen.<br>
><br>
> Also, has lightdm ever been considered?<br>
> It seems to be awesome and much lighter then gdm.<br>
> Lxdm is good too.<br>
><br>
> -Glenn<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> If you haven't seen the latest issue, Linux Journal has a
quick look<br>
> at some alternate desktop environments, and the first one
featured<br>
> is Xfce on Xubuntu. The primary* thing that they noted was
that the<br>
> default Xubuntu install ran with 325mb of RAM used, while
Ubuntu's<br>
> default RAM usage after boot-up was 328mb (by contrast,
Lubuntu used<br>
> just 167mb of RAM). They actually suggested using Ubuntu
with<br>
> lighter-weight apps (i.e., Installing Ubuntu and replacing
Rhythmbox<br>
> with Exaile, etc.) over using Xubuntu. (Note that they
didn't<br>
> *dislike* Xubuntu, but just thought it wasn't a big
advantage to use<br>
> Xfce over Gnome.)<br>
><br>
> Xubuntu may load some useful features that Lubuntu doesn't
load, but<br>
> that RAM usage number is one measuring stick that people
use. Would<br>
> it be worthwhile to consider any changes that might allow
for lesser<br>
> memory usage at boot? I'd be willing to help with testing
out<br>
> various configurations and reporting back to the group if
that would<br>
> help.<br>
><br>
> Also, I went back to look at the "Should we use Chromium?"
thread<br>
> from 2009, and a couple of things have changed since then .
. .<br>
> Chromium is now stable (it was in beta at the time), there
is a<br>
> legitimate ad-blocking extension (not just ad-hiding), and
it now<br>
> allows for community translations (meaning we wouldn't be
limited to<br>
> Google Chrome's default language set.). These were all
larger<br>
> concerns at that time.</span><br>
One problem with Chromium is that there are major updates every 6<br>
weeks, so the default will be ever changing throughout the cycle.
<br>
Firefox should only have one major update throughout the cycle.
Also,<br>
the Chromium debs are larger than the ones for Firefox.<br>
<span style="white-space: pre;">><br>
> I'm indifferent on the mail application. If it means that
we could<br>
> get rid of Xulrunner (which would require switching to
Chromium and<br>
> Clawsmail), it might be worth considering switching to
Clawsmail,<br>
> too. I think yelp uses Xulrunner, though, and yelp gets
pulled in<br>
> with some of our gnome-apps, like file-roller.<br>
><br>
> Jim<br>
><br>
> *They also incorrectly ascribed the nice-looking theme to
work by<br>
> Canonical. I'll have to write a letter to the editor about
that<br>
> one. : )</span><br>
Yelp should be the only thing using xulrunner at the moment in
Xubuntu<br>
as Firefox and Thunderbird each have their own copy. If yelp is<br>
ported to webkit, then xulrunner can be dropped, but webkit will
be<br>
pulled in.<br>
<br>
Micah<br>
<br>
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