<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Lionel Le Folgoc <<a href="mailto:mrpouit@ubuntu.com">mrpouit@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi folks, Since karmic, gnome-screensaver heavily relies on gnome-session (for example to get the inactivity time). Therefore, it won't automatically activate on Xfce. Xubuntu 9.10 has been released with this bug [1]; I would like to avoid releasing lucid with the same broken feature. Here are some possible alternatives: (1) patch gnome-screensaver to restore the old behavior; (2) switch to xscreensaver by default; (3) develop another Xfce-oriented screensaver; (4) do nothing. IMHO, (1) isn't going to happen: upstream won't change it back, I don't have time to patch gnome-screensaver nor to waste time to try to convince some people of the desktop team to apply it (but if you have, please step up)… (3) looks sexy, but is a bit unwise wrt to security matters. Screensavers are usually used to lock screens, so are sensitive pieces of software. I'm not sure it'll be ready (and secure enough) for lucid… (2) xscreensaver isn't really pretty, but works fine. At the moment, I don't know if it can be manually customized by the artwork team, any hints? (there is already [2] to track this) (4) isn't really an option. If nothing has been achieved or no decision has been made before the UserInterfaceFreeze (March 4th, one week before the first beta), I think I'll set xscreensaver by default (2), because we can't release lucid as broken as karmic. These are some quick thoughts. If you think I've missed an obvious alternative, have better ideas or have already started to work on something, feel free to react. Cheers, Lionel [1] <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/493573" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/493573</a>> [2] <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/361678" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/361678</a>> -- </blockquote></div> #2 sounds good to me. The dialog apparently can be themed to some extent [3]. Not sure if this requires another package and, if so, whether that would be doable. The loss in accessibility is a shame, but the only alternative to that is including both gnome-screensaver (with the risks mentioned in [3]) and gnome-session. I don't think that's really an option - hopefully it's not too big of a hassle for people with disabilities to install them manually. [3] <a href="http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html">http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html</a> -- Vincent