Hi,<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Lionel Le Folgoc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lionel@lefolgoc.net">lionel@lefolgoc.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><div><snip> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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By the way, Cody, did you talk with cjwatson about your "gdm-legacy"<br>
package? Afaik, autologin config has changed before 2.20 and 2.26, so<br>
the option in ubiquity should be fixed/hidden for Xubuntu.</blockquote><div><br>Mario already mentioned this to me. I'll patch ubiquity to work correctly. <br><br><snip><br><br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
> Regarding the screensaver, gnome-screensaver now depends on gnome-session,<br>
> and if this can not be fixed, it should be dropped ASAP. And I think that it<br>
> would be more profitable to try to make xscreensaver's dialog better (that<br>
> is to say fix system theming + a11y issues) than to keep gnome-screensaver,<br>
> because :<br>
> - the xscreensaver author, of which g-screensaver is a fork, claims that<br>
> g-screensaver may not be secure<br>
> - xscreensaver is maintained by someone who is interested in a stable,<br>
> secure and cross-platform screensaver, while g-screensaver is maintained by<br>
> developers who primarily address the needs of the GNOME users, sometimes<br>
> regardless of the needs of other users of particular software. While I can<br>
> perfectly understand that, it means future releases of gnome software are<br>
> always less reliable than from other authors (this reminds me of a blogpost<br>
> that i unfortunately lost, from a GNOME developer stating that GNOME needs<br>
> to learn to take the habit to say when they do changes that can have bad<br>
> consequences for their users, which they currently don't and which you learn<br>
> of once things are there).<br>
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</div>+1. Imho, we are going to discover more unexpected issues after the release<br>
because of the "let's-make-everything-rely-on-gnome-session" idea anyway…</blockquote><br>As I've already mentioned, gnome-screensaver uses gnome-session to determine when the session is idle. We can either patch gnome-screensaver to use the old x11 watcher if the gnome-session dbus interface isn't available or we could even patch xfce4-power-manager to take care of starting the screensaver since it monitors idleness not using gnome-session already. If neither options turn out to be viable for whatever reason, we'll have no choice but to move to xscreensaver.<br>
<br>Cheers,<br></div><br>-- <br>Cody A.W. Somerville<br>Software Systems Release Engineer<br>Foundations Team<br>Custom Engineering Solutions Group<br>Canonical OEM Services<br>Phone: +1-781-850-2087<br>Cell: +1-506-471-8402<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:cody.somerville@canonical.com">cody.somerville@canonical.com</a><br>