'lo,<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">2009/5/28 Matthew Nuzum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthew.nuzum@canonical.com">matthew.nuzum@canonical.com</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Cody A.W. Somerville<br> <div class="im"><<a href="mailto:cody-somerville@ubuntu.com">cody-somerville@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <div class="im">>> I see your point here, but being watched the Xubuntu website in the last,<br>>> what, 9 months, I definitely feel that it's not going to overgrow WP with<br>>> this amount of activity.<br> ><br>> You have a valid point here but I think our website can do more. For<br>> example, its always been my intention to investigate the possibility of<br>> reusing the drupal module that I suspect powers the download section on the<br> > Ubuntu website. Furthermore, I'm also interested in using the launchpad<br>> integration modules created for Drupal.<br>><br>> Matthew: Do you know if it would be possible for us to use the download<br>> stuff from Ubuntu's website? Open sourcing it would not necessarily be a<br> > requirement.<br><br></div>Launchpad integration is available for both Drupal (versions 5 and 6)<br>as well as Wordpress. The internal to Canonical development team is in<br>the QA stage (I believe) for wordpress integration with LP. Which ever<br> solution you choose can be integrated.</blockquote> <div> </div> <div>What does the LP integration actually do/which features it provides?</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br><br>Regarding the download code, I don't have good news for you. The<br>problem isn't the availability of the code but the availability of<br> useful data. Launchpad monitors official mirrors to ensure they have<br>all of the necessary cd images and files and then provides a list of<br>suitable mirrors to <a href="http://ubuntu.com/" target="_blank">ubuntu.com</a>. Xubuntu's CD images aren't among the<br> list that are required to be an official mirror.<br></blockquote> <div> </div> <div>That was actually what I was asking some time ago at #ubuntu-website.</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br>A different technical solution will be needed.</blockquote> <div> </div> <div>If we could get the code that checks the official mirrors, I might add some checking to ensure if they have Xubuntu images as well. Would this be possible?</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br> <div class="im"><br>>>><br>>>> Drupal is not as much a CMS as it is a web development framework with<br>>>> a simplistic CMS application built in. If you want to describe and<br>>>> publish all kinds of information or build simple dynamic content<br> >>> applications Drupal is an excellent option. Another thing it excels at<br>>>> is themeing. It has a very simple to use themeing system and doesn't<br>>>> in the least sacrifice flexibility. It is unfortunately much more<br> >>> challenging to configure and use.<br>>><br>>><br>>> I have to say that my personal opinion somewhat differs here. I've also<br>>> developed on Drupal (and WP), and I must say that the theming system of WP<br> >> is way more logical in my hands than Drupals. I see that Drupal (theming)<br>>> doesn't sacrifice flexibility at all, but the question to be asked is that<br>>> do we really need that much *complexity*?<br> ><br>> The toughest part is creating the actual styling and html which is why I<br>> have tons of respect for folks like you and Matthew. As for converting that<br>> into a "theme" for Drupal or WP, that can easily be done with folks who have<br> > the necessary experience working with the targetted software.<br><br></div> <div class="im">> I think what Matthew was trying to point out here is Drupal has some very<br>> powerful modules that can be pieced together to provide flexible<br>> solutions/functionality without needing to touch any code.<br> <br></div>I'm missing out on a good part of this discussion so if you've already<br>done this, just ignore me here...<br><br>Change for the sake of change is often not good. If you have<br>requirements that are not being met you should clarify them amongst<br> yourselves. Then choosing a solution is as simple as "we need X, Y,<br>what will provide this?"<br><br>If you are mostly happy with a drupal site but need a blog you will<br>probably be most satisfied by enabling the blog module for drupal.<br> Otherwise you have to create and maintain a new theme. If you are<br>planning on making a new theme anyway and a blog mostly meets your<br>needs then you could gain from the simpler/optimized interface and<br>workflow in wordpress.</blockquote> <div> </div> <div>I couldn't say it better myself.</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br><br>Before you chose a solution come to an agreement on what the problem<br>is. (I'd post this on your wiki) That will make the discussion much<br> more productive.</blockquote> <div> </div> <div>Thansk for your valuable opinions.</div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><span id=""></span><br><font color="#888888"><br>--<br></font> <div> <div></div> <div class="h5">Matthew Nuzum<br>newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, <a href="http://identi.ca/" target="_blank">identi.ca</a> and twitter<br><br>--<br>xubuntu-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"> <div></div>,ol'<br>-- <br>Pasi Lallinaho<br>Xubuntu Marketing Lead<br>Web designer, graphic artist<br>IRC: knome @ freenode<br>