<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/21 Simon Steinbeiß <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:simon.steinbeiss@elfenbeinturm.at">simon.steinbeiss@elfenbeinturm.at</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
hi everyone,<br>
since xubuntu jaunty includes xfce4-notifyd and makes notifications (for the first time<br>
since i've been using xubuntu) visually appealing i wanted to bring up the issue of<br>
unifiying the notifications in xubuntu (i assume we're talking karmic here).<br>
so, the point i'm trying to make is quite simple. imho xubuntu should display *all*<br>
notifications using the same daemon (i would assume this will be xfce4-notifyd not<br>
notify-osd for now, but that's a different discussion anyway). for now there are<br>
different problems with this on different levels.<br>
<br>
there are (of what i can think of now):<br>
a) functions that have to implemented to use xfce4-notifyd by default (like *some*<br>
multimedia keys, brightness etc)<br>
b) xubuntu's default applications that need to be (and can be) modified to use<br>
notifications in a sensible manner<br>
c) third-party applications that can be modified to use xfce4-notifyd (like skype)<br>
<br>
for now i have been privately working around these issues.<br>
regarding the volume-changes i have written a short script<br>
(<a href="http://pastebin.com/m5319cb2d" target="_blank">http://pastebin.com/m5319cb2d</a>) that handles my audio volume and gives me notify-send<br>
output using the icons included in xubuntu's standard icon theme<br>
(gnome-brave/scalable/notifications). i'm doing the same for gmusicbrowser and<br>
claws-mail (agreed, both not xubuntu-standard, but still apps one can easily modify and<br>
that could - or should? - be standard).<br>
i mentioned skype as a third-party app because i figured out how to send its<br>
notifications through notify-send (e.g. setting in skype's options -> notifications -><br>
advanced view -> execute the following script: "notify-send "%sname:" "%smessage" -i<br>
skype-chat"; this obviously implies you have some icon named "skype-chat").<br>
<br>
so with all the modifications i have made to my system (xubuntu jaunty) i have quite a<br>
unified notifications experience (and i assume my friends, whom i support with their<br>
linux-usage will enjoy the same) and i think this would be quite worth pursuing.<br>
<br>
i'm very aware that my "solutions" are not applicable in this manner to xubuntu, as they<br>
involve *dirty* scripting. but maybe this can be a nice starting point for a discussion<br>
about something ubuntu tried to implement with jaunty (difficult to judge for me now<br>
whether they succeeded).<br>
<br>
anyways thanks for your attention,<br>
simon<br>
<font color="#888888"></font></blockquote><div> </div></div>Hi,<br><br>I don't really do desktop coding so I'm not really up to scratch with regards to fd.o standards, but IIUC there is one standard for notifications that is adhered to by libnotify (the example implementation IIRC), notify-osd and xfce4-notifyd. Therefore, all applications that support this standard should be unified in not only Xubuntu but most Linux distributions. Unfortunately, some applications still prefer to show their own notifications.<br>
<br>Thus, what I'm trying to say is that you don't really need Xubuntu to look at it but each individual application that doesn't adhere to the standard (which most of them do, I'd argue).<br clear="all">
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-- <br>Vincent<br>