<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Charlie Kravetz <<a href="mailto:cjk@teamcharliesangels.com">cjk@teamcharliesangels.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br> Hash: SHA1<br> <br> </div>On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:27:27 +0000<br> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">Vincent <<a href="mailto:mailinglists@vinnl.nl">mailinglists@vinnl.nl</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Vincent <<a href="mailto:mailinglists@vinnl.nl">mailinglists@vinnl.nl</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > ><br> > ><br> > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Jim Campbell <<a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com">jwcampbell@gmail.com</a>><br> > > wrote:<br> > ><br> > >><br> > >> In terms of your availability to work on the project, we're trying to<br> > >> break the project down into smaller, well-defined chunks to make it easier<br> > >> for people to participate.  Unfortunately, I haven't guaged how much time<br> > >> it will take per person, per week, but I will do my best to keep weekly time<br> > >> requirements down.<br> > >><br> > > Cool, I'll see tomorrow or maybe tonight if I can play around with<br> > > proposing a site structure.<br> > ><br> > ><br> ><br> > Well, I've tried my hands a bit at proposing a site structure, I've put<br> > together a specification at<br> > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Intrepid/WebsiteContent" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Intrepid/WebsiteContent</a> .<br> > I've also added a quick mockup, I don't know if that intrudes too much on<br> > the designing process but I figured I'd add it anyway because it gives a<br> > good idea of what I'm thinking of.<br> ><br> > Best,<br> > --<br> > Vincent<br> ><br> <br> </div></div>Vincent,<br>  I looked your specifications over a couple of times now. I agree with<br> most, but when it comes to news, I believe a sentence or two summary is<br> much more powerful than the headlines. I have never felt headlines<br> alone jump out at me.<br> <br> Example:<br> Xubuntu 8.04.01 released<br> <br> or<br> <br> Xubuntu 8.04.01 released; Announcing the latest release of Xubuntu Long<br> Term Support version. This incorporates the latest bug fixes among<br> other things.<br> <br> Which one would attract attention?<br> <br> This type of thing is easy in Drupal, you should be able to specify the<br> number of lines it presents, if I recall correctly. Unless it has<br> changed now.<br> </blockquote><div><br>Fine with me :) - could you add it under the "Comments" section on the wiki?<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> I'd also like something that says I don't have to go more than 3-4<br> levels to get to everything on the site. If that means an extra page or<br> two at the top levels, fine. I hate clicking through many pages to find<br> what anything is.<br> </blockquote><div><br>I agree, but I think the current sections should be able to accomplish that. If anyone can think of a use case that wouldn't directly under one of the sections or at most under a child of that section, feel free to propose an additional section :)<br>  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> And my last thing. Is this going to be laid out like the Ubuntu<br> Homepage? </blockquote><div><br>That would be up to the designer.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">There is a specification in the wiki which points out a few<br> things[1]. Somehow, in the midst of revamping the website, I would<br> like to see some of the wiki pages combined or updated, also.<br> <br> We need to remember that even if Xubuntu is free, we are still<br> marketing the software. Without strong marketing, we will lose any<br> share of the users out there. Here is a page[2] on what to look for,<br> which should be brought up to date if necessary. At least the ideas<br> presented should be considered.<br> </blockquote><div><br>Hmm, perhaps it is an idea to create a wiki page where people can list outdated wiki pages?<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> I think our colors should reflect the colors in the wiki banner, and<br> that something needs to tell users they aren't hijacked when we<br> redirect them. The first time the wiki sent me to the website, I closed<br> it and started over. I didn't know it was part of Xubuntu. This needs<br> to be made real clear.<br> </blockquote><div><br>In an idea situation we'd have something like <a href="https://wiki.kubuntu.org/">https://wiki.kubuntu.org/</a> where the wiki theme is adapted to match the Xubuntu style.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> Well, that's probably enough for now. I like the proposal. I'm not so<br> good at writing specs, but can write the pages when I know what I<br> want on them.<br> <br> [1]<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Intrepid/WebsiteContent" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications/Intrepid/WebsiteContent</a><br> </div>[2] <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Specifications</a><br> [3] <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/SpecialProjects/WebContent" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/SpecialProjects/WebContent</a><br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> - --<br> Charlie Kravetz</div><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Vincent </div>