Okay. As I already said, I've requested a xubuntu-bugs mailing list. However, since this seems to be a bigger problem then I thought, no more bug mail will be delivered to xubuntu-devel from this point forward. During Intrepid, I hope to code some tools that help make bug triage easier. ie. I'm thinking of maybe generating and sending out a weekly bug report/overview to this list to just keep everyone in the loop. Thoughts? Ideas? Cheers, Cody <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Charlie Kravetz <<a href="mailto:cjk@teamcharliesangels.com">cjk@teamcharliesangels.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"> On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 12:42 -0500, Jim Campbell wrote: > > > On 4/27/08, Jelle de Jong <<a href="mailto:jelledejong@powercraft.nl">jelledejong@powercraft.nl</a>> wrote: >         Vincent wrote: >         > >         > >         > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Eero Tamminen >         <<a href="mailto:oak@helsinkinet.fi">oak@helsinkinet.fi</a> >         > <mailto:<a href="mailto:oak@helsinkinet.fi">oak@helsinkinet.fi</a>>> wrote: >         > >         >     Hi, >         > >         >     On Saturday 26 April 2008, Jelle de Jong wrote: >         >      > > As someone who has focused primarily on the >         documentation, I >         >     find the >         >      > > deluge of bug reports on the mailing list a little >         >     overwhelming.  And I >         >      > > think it also increases the signal-to-noise ratio >         for >         >     discussions on >         >      > > the list - it makes it easier for a discussion to >         get lost. >         >      > > >         >      > > I'd be willing to take myself off of the Xubuntu >         team list if >         >     others >         >      > > want to keep things this way, but  I'd prefer to >         not receive bug >         >      > > reports from xubuntu-devel. >         >      > >         > >         > >         >     Maybe there could be a separate xubuntu-bugs mailing >         list? >         > >         > >         > I was just going to suggest this myself, so a +1 from me. > >         I don't see any reason why not to do this are there any? It >         will thinks >         more cleaner. so +1 for me to. > >         Jelle > > Regarding the bugs mailing list . . .  I'm indifferent (and I don't > mean that in a bad way).  I'm ok with being able to contribute to > documentation, but just find it annoying for every Xubuntu bug report > to come into my mailbox when I want to focus on docs.  What if someone > wants to contribute to artwork or the website - should they have to > see a bug report for xfwm4 crashing?  Maybe Jani, Cody, and Lionel > don't like all of the artwork and other non-core-dev related > discussions on the devel mailing list, and they prefer things this > way. > > I can see the need to be notified of bug reports for Xubuntu > testing/QA, packaging, and seed management . . .  but documentation, > artwork and community-building/website/marketing folks shouldn't need > to see every report.  Maybe create a xubuntu-core-dev (or xubuntu-qa) > mailing list for testers, packagers, and seed managers?  Or maybe > create a xubuntu-devel-discuss list for less technical development > discussions?  Maybe people like Cody, Lionel, Jani, Jerome, and others > like having the bug reports come through, but no other team does > things this way, and it doesn't seem to be an optimal solution to me. > I don't think that creating an email filter is a good solution, > either. > > Cody had preposed the following, "Or we could either remove > xubuntu-dev from xubuntu-team or remove the contact address (this > mailing list) from xubuntu-dev," and I haven't heard discussions of > those options.  I assume that making one of those moves would stop the > bug reports from feeding to the mailing list, but I'm not sure. > > I don't intend for this to discourage people from working on bugs and > fixing things, and part of me does see how doing this helps us to see > how many bug reports are actually coming in, but another part of me > says that I have limited time to spend on Xubuntu and need to be able > to focus on the areas that require my work. > > I'm open to input on this, of course.  We've had things going like > this for over a month now . . . what do people think? > > Jim </div></div>Agreed, I spend so much time looking at what I can't understand to try to find what applies, I don't have time for much else anymore. I'm at the point of just deleting the bugs so I can do what need doing. -- <div class="Ih2E3d">Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914          [<a href="http://counter.li.org/" target="_blank">http://counter.li.org/</a>] Never let anyone steal your DREAM.           [<a href="http://keepingdreams.com" target="_blank">http://keepingdreams.com</a>] </div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">-- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- Cody A.W. Somerville Software Engineer Red Cow Marketing & Technologies, Inc. Office: 506-458-1290 Toll Free: 1-877-733-2699 Fax: 506-453-9112 Cell: 506-449-5899 Email: <a href="mailto:cody@redcow.ca">cody@redcow.ca</a> <a href="http://www.redcow.ca">http://www.redcow.ca</a>