<div>On 12/02/2008, vidd <<a href="mailto:vidd@crosslink.net">vidd@crosslink.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> While knowing what kind of security issue would be nice to know, knowing there is an application on my system with a known, unpatched security issue is unacceptable, regardless of how "unimportant" it may be. A know, non-security-related bug (with or without a know workaround) is preferable to me then a know security hole.</blockquote><div> But really, if it required physical access to your computer, compositing enabled and g-s-s running, would you mind that much? IMO it's a really marginal case that does not outweigh the obvious benefits of g-s-s. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I ran both g-s-m and xfce4-taskmanager side by side     g-s-m is         visually more appealing         using between 19-52 % of my CPU     xfce4-taskmanager is        more spartan        using between 5-17 % of my CPU Why would the user need this application except to shut down an out-of-control app? Granted,  as  a  tech  support  tool,  it  may  have  some  benefit.</blockquote><div> I'd say "huge benefit" ;-) </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> But for the average user,  how often are they actually going to use this system tab once the system is running? The resource tab is a nice touch that some users may find appealing....but those users are more likely going to display that info in panel plugins or some other method, rather then open g-s-m and leave it up. Does the File systems tab do anything but give you a less detailed output of the cli command "df"? I see  no  truely  compelling reason for choosing g-s-m over xfce4-taskmanager</blockquote><div> I must say that ending non-responsive applications is more intuitive in g-s-m and that I find the speed decrease doubtful, but as that are just my feelings with, also, no hard data to back them up that's not really a valid argument. However, I'd like to stress again that it is pretty important to be able to easily check your Xubuntu version and hardware info. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > And I forgot to mention it, but also a +1 for weighing the pros and > cons from me. Please, I think I've clearly outlined what I think are > the benefits of said applications, if you could consider those and see > if the cons really outweigh these pros then say so. If there is any flaws in my statements, I appologize in advance. I tried to be as thoughtful as possible in my pro's and cons</blockquote> <div> I found your arguments in this email (and probably older ones too, haven't checked) very thoughtful and contributing to a constructive discussion :) </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > > Best, > > -- > Vincent vidd </blockquote></div> -- Vincent