On Feb 6, 2008 3:38 AM, Jani Monoses <<a href="mailto:jani@ubuntu.com">jani@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>><br>> This is getting ridiculous. If you think Xfce is so bad that it has to<br>> be patched up with various bits of GNOME, why are you even working on an<br> <br></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Xfce itself does not need to be patches (much). It needs however to be<br>complemented with apps that they do not have or the ones that they are<br>working on are immature.</blockquote><div><br>I don't think anyone's disputing that Xfce needs outside
applications to make a usable desktop. What we're questioning is the
current selection of said apps.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">> Xfce-based adaption of Ubuntu? If you think the Xfce devs are lazy about<br>
> fixing bugs and putting out new releases, why are you not working for<br>> GNOME instead?<br><br></div>Actually I am working on GNOME, since seeing that Xfce does not have a<br>clear goal and schedule. But that is fine, their core is solid, that is<br>
why it should be in Xubuntu. But the apps are missing and that is where<br>gnome apps are more appropriate.<br></blockquote><div><br>Why must the replacements specifically be "gnome apps"? Can they not be third party GTK apps?<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">><br>> Xfce has far fewer developers and users than GNOME does. They can't<br>
> possibly respond to bugs and user requests at the same rate the GNOME<br>> devs do. If you dislike this, move to GNOME.<br>><br>> I'm curious as to why you have any interest in Xfce at all, at this point.<br>
><br><br></div>I am curious why are you writing at all if you have nothing constructive<br>or informative to add to the thread?<br><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>Jani</div></div></blockquote><div><br>You not only managed to dodge my question here, but you also flame me for asking it. Not exactly a diplomatic way to handle honest questions from a user of a distro you contribute to, Mr. Monoses.<br>
<br>You seem to exhibit a certain distaste for Xfce, which is why I can't understand why you're working on a distro that's supposed to be Xfce-focused.<br><br>If you're going to respond with little more than petty flames, then I can see no reason to continue attempting to get a satisfactory explanation from you.<br>
<br>I hope the other Xubuntu devs work this out and come to a conclusion as to what Xubuntu's goals and target userbase should be.<br><br>G<br></div></div>