On Feb 5, 2008 3:59 PM, Jari Rahkonen <<a href="mailto:jari.rahkonen@pp1.inet.fi">jari.rahkonen@pp1.inet.fi</a>> wrote: <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The "user" in user friendly refers to both newbies and us so called power users. I don't subscribe to the idea that being user friendly somehow automatically has to make the app less powerful. The UI needs to be clean and logical to be efficient and provide the necessary amount of (but not too many) options and configurability with sane defaults, and everybody wins. Xfce doesn't make being lightweight its only priority and I don't think we should either. The only assumption we should make is that people don't want to spend time fiddling with their system or learn unnecessary stuff when they could be doing something productive instead. - Jari </blockquote></div> I'm not trying to imply that the applications aren't (or can't be) easy to use. I'm just saying that they don't go to the same lengths to do any hand-holding like some GNOME and KDE apps do.