<div>On 14/09/2007, Ghostvirus <<a href="mailto:theghostvirus@gmail.com">theghostvirus@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 9/14/07, Jani Monoses <<a href="mailto:jani@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jani@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<div> <div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello, I have been thinking lately of switching over to Totem for the following reasons besides the generic ones that were mentioned in the GNOME apps thread. - it is friendlier than gxine - we get another package co-maintained with Ubuntu lessening our bug triage - its dependencies are in already (although that was not a maneuver to get here!) - according to the threads here and the forum poll, gxine seems to be one of the top apps that are being switched out from a default install. The alternative is usually vlc or mplayer but we cannot include those - has a nicer firefox plugin Totem can use either gstreamer or libxine as a backend, here are the pros and cons I know totem-gstreamer - gstreamer is the one used in Ubuntu so the maintenance argument applies - gstreamer has integrated the codec wizard that downloads missing codecs when a certain media being played needs them - pidgin in xubuntu already depends on libgstreamer totem-xine - we keep the same functionality as with gxine only with a nicer GUI - has better DVD support than gstreamer well thought out and constructive comments welcome, regardless of their being for or against this change :) thanks Jani -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> </div>I'm sorry, but trading one useless app for another useless one sounds pointless to me. How many people honestly use Totem for their regular video watching? I don't know anyone that uses it. Everyone inevitably installs VLC and/or MPlayer, especially if they're using Xfce. Obviously those can't be included by default, but why switch gxine out for Totem? I fail to see how Totem is better to use. It's hardly any more user-friendly than gxine. "It's already in Ubuntu" seems to be the only reasoning behind this... </blockquote><div> I'd use it if I had thought of it... But I would never use Gxine. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Just my $0.02. Ghostvirus -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> -- Vincent