On 7/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jani Monoses</b> <<a href="mailto:jani.monoses@gmail.com">jani.monoses@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Jim,</blockquote><div><br>[snip] <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">wouldn't it work faster and get more feedback if instead of a spec the site itself
<br>was prototyped? Take the ubuntu drupal theme, and with maybe minor CSS+art changes and<br>the main (not archives) content of <a href="http://xubuntu.org">xubuntu.org</a> put it up somewhere. If you have access<br>to <a href="http://xubuntu.org">
xubuntu.org</a> do you have enough rights to set up a subdomain for it (<a href="http://beta.xubuntu.org">beta.xubuntu.org</a>)<br><br>Then people can get real feedback and proceed with improving it in small steps.<br>Writing a spec is as you say boring, and I think it has the effect of demotivating people working on it,
<br>whereas a live site would get more contributors excited and be visible progress.<br><br>So as the 'Getting Real' authors advise: get something small out quick, get feedback on the real thing<br>not the specs, improve in iterations, etc. :)
</blockquote><div><br>Either approach is fine with me - really, for me it's up to the people who will actually be doing the work on the website. If Chad and the current maintainers want to hash things out over IRC, over email, or over the mailing list, that's fine with me. Different people work in different ways, I guess. I had just thought to put up the spec because that's how I thought we were supposed to do it, even though I haven't had fun experiences with them myself.*
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Of course for this to work someone _has_ to take ownership of the task. With 3-4 site admins but
<br>none taking full responsability progress is usually slower.</blockquote><div><br>We have Chad who is taking responsibility for initially getting the new site up and running, but of course he could use help from the current admins. I'm mostly thinking of feedback about what their pain points were/are with the site. I've heard comments that we should have a means for more content updates on the front page.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">In the past someone said they had the current ubuntu drupal theme adapted for xubuntu? Is that done?
</blockquote><div><br>TheSheep (Radomir?) had done a good amount of work getting things set up initially, but he had to bow out of future development efforts on it due to time constraints. We new have a base drupal 5.1 install up at
<a href="http://vidd.us/~xubuntu">http://vidd.us/~xubuntu</a>. Chad does have the files that TheSheep was using, though.<br></div><br>This is just my little update on it. :) Thanks, all.<br></div><br>Jim<br>-- <br><a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com">
jwcampbell@gmail.com</a>