ripperx could also be an option i suppose as a cd ripper I was just trying to find one that did both xfreecd is a small little cd player too again i was just referring to grip because i wanted a program that could do both <div>On 5/8/07, Vincent <<a href="mailto:imnotb@gmail.com">imnotb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On 08/05/07, Ronnie Whisler <<a href="mailto:mrwislr@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> mrwislr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> gmusicbrowser is not bloated at all have no idea what your speaking of and if you change the interface which it has many under the misc tab its as easy or easier than any other music program out there... Not hard to configure at all. Plus it can use either gstreamer, mpg321 ogg123 flac123 or mplayer as the backend... supports giant libraries of music... YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT UNDER THE MISC TAB TO SEE HOW NICE IT IS! it also has its own repository </blockquote><div> I have tried gmusicbrowser and I found the "Misc" tab, but there were tons of layout options with undescriptive names. Also, being able to customize a program is really nice (in fact, that's what I love about Linux most) but we should have sane defaults. If you're the type of person who wants to tinker with every program they use then you're probably also the person who can find and install such a program himself. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">also grip doesn't have any gnome dependencies that I'm aware of. </blockquote> <div> If I fire up Synaptic and look at the dependencies I see among others libgnome-2.0 and libgnomeui-0 . On the other hand, perhaps it could be compiled without Gnome dependencies but then there should be someone to do that, which I suppose there isn't. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">VLC's video is still blurring compared to mplayer and I'm pretty sure that VLC doesn't play apples movie trailers... </blockquote><div> Sounds a bit weird to me to exclude a program just because it doesn't play this movie trailer format by Apple (do you mean QuickTime?). I haven't really looked in to video players though, I use VLC now because MPlayer causes some troubles, they both suffice to me if they work. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> claws-mail is an excellent email program especially with the tango theme installed. it looks very nice and is super fast and no harder to configure than anyother program i've ever used.</blockquote><div> As Adam said, it has been seriously considered and if it has sufficient features (probably soon) it'll probably be included (though I recall it still needed a package maintainer?). </div><div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">LETS TRY USING THE PROGRAMS BEFORE COUNTING THEM OUT! <div> <div>On 5/8/07, Harold Aling <<a href="mailto:h.aling@home.nl" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> h.aling@home.nl</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Ronnie Whisler wrote: > I have found a couple of applications that should be in Xubuntu in my > opinion > > 1st. CatFish - for lightweight file search utility > <a href="http://www.getdeb.net/category.php?id=24" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://www.getdeb.net/category.php?id=24</a> > Cool app, except for the fact that it died on me instantly while I tried to cancel a search... > 2nd. gmusicbrowser - for lightweight music player > Really bloated app, and I could never figure out the interface, just like Exaile. I'd vote for VLC if they would finally implement 'only one instance' and don't drop the xvwindows interface for a QT-based one. Than we would have one application for both audio and video with good codec support and simple player + playlist interface. > 3rd. get rid of gxine and go with mplayer with optimal settings > (gmusicbrowser can use mplayer as its backend) also only player that > plays apples movie trailers. > VLC... > 4. grip - for lightweight cd player & ripper > Way too many Gnome dependencies > 5. hacburn - for lightweight cd burning (since xfburn doesnt work for > most things) > > 6. claw-mail - for lightweight email client (with a couple plugins and > the tango theme installed) > Fast application, many features, but looks really unattractive and difficult to configure... Maybe later? I'd like to think in what a user wants, then find the most appropriate application for it. A user would probably like to: * Listen to audio -> VLC * Watch a video -> VLC * Read mail -> Thunderbird or Claws * Edit a home video -> Kino * Synchronise my mobile phone/PDA -> ??? / OpenSync (once it get's a good interface) * Type a letter -> Abiword/Openoffice * Manage finances -> Gnucash * Browse the web -> Firefox * Look at pictures -> gqview * Burn a cd -> ??? / Brasero (I currently use NeroLinux 3 with my 'old' Windows Nero 6 license!) ...etc... Cheers! -H- -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com </a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> </div> -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div></div> -- Vincent -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>