Roberto! I'm so glad that the test worked well for you!  That's great news.  However, when I view the ISO testing page, I don't see your comments under the bug for the Xubuntu alternate cd ( <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93134"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93134</a> ).  Would you mind using that link to report your results?  Just add the following information as a comment to that bug. Test case type: Date of testing: md5sum confirmed: Bugs identified: Comments: Thanks again! Jim <div>On 3/22/07, Roberto Benitez <<a href="mailto:robertomariobenitez@gmail.com">robertomariobenitez@gmail.com</a> > wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi everybody !! Finally I am back. After fixing my internet conexion problem I've got the screen of my spare laptop broken. Fortunately, I've got it fixed yesterday just in time to download feisty-desktop-i386 (version 22-mar-2007) to initiate my first test. It didn't work. After checking system reqs, I realized that I have only 96mb of ram so I downloaded the alternate version. It worked! The only thing is that installation process (oem user) took about 12 hours !!!! (I think that my poor laptop will not be able to make the next release of xubuntu). Probably I will be using my extra partition on my official laptop (I know we need best to test on exclusive hardware but is what I have by now). I will  update launchpad with my results. I am very proud of my first experience. Best regards. <div>On 3/22/07, <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <<a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Send xubuntu-devel mailing list submissions to         <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit         <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to         <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com </a> You can reach the person managing the list at         <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com </a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of xubuntu-devel digest..." Today's Topics:    1. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jim Campbell)    2. Big Kudos (Cody Somerville)    3. My upgrade process (Vincent)    4. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jani Monoses)    5. Re: Big Kudos (Jani Monoses)    6. Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages (Jim Campbell)    7. Xubuntu tests still needed (Jim Campbell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:35:07 -0500 From: "Jim Campbell" <<a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> jwcampbell@gmail.com </a>> Subject: Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <<a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:cc5454020703220735m28019afeo701fea7a8362d429@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">cc5454020703220735m28019afeo701fea7a8362d429@mail.gmail.com </a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jani, The xfce4-panel didn't start in my live session of the most recent (2007/03/22) i386 live cd.  Unfortunately, my i386 box isn't networked right now, so I can't do much to get you the backtrace. Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the other recent xfce-related crashes? As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system after I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live session.  Thanks, Jim On 3/19/07, Jani Monoses <<a href="mailto:jani.monoses@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jani.monoses@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > Hello, > > in the past weeks the number of automatic reports of crashes in xfdesktop4 > , xfce4-session and > xfce4-panel have increased considerably. To have a better chance at > debugging them we need more > useful backtraces than the ones currently generated by apport from the > stripped binaries. > > So if any of you are among the reporters of those crashes you could > install the corresponding > -dbgsym packages. > > Add the line > deb <a href="http://people.ubuntu.com/%7Epitti/ddebs" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs</a> feisty main universe > > to your apt sources and update, then you can install xfdesktop4-dbgsym and > other similarly named packages. > When a crash occurs the backtrace will hopefully include a lot more > information. > > See this for more info > > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html </a> > > > Jani > > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> > -- <a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jwcampbell@gmail.com</a> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The good news is that I'll be out in 3-4 weeks but the bad news is that I might not have Internet for awhile as I'll be moving once I get out of the hospital. I'll be sure to keep in touch regardless. Anyhow, I don't have a lot of time but I would like to give a big thanks to the xubuntu-devel team, jmaz, adam, vincent, thesheep (can't spell your real name), Jim (HUGE thanks for doing the testing stuff - keep up the awesome work), and everyone else who helps make Xubuntu rock! Sorry I can't name everyone by name but I want everyone to know that I _really_ apprecaite your contributions and I'd love to hear about them (so feel free to e-mail me). Thanks a bunch everyone! I look forward to rocking with you all for feisty+1 With love, :) Cody -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That's why I've made lots of screenshots which I've blogged about here: <a href="http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/risking-the-update/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/risking-the-update/</a> Sorry if it's too much self-promotion, I won't do it again ;) -- Vincent -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This used to happen in edgy as well with only 128M of RAM, is that your case by any chance? > Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the > other recent xfce-related crashes? I am not sure, there was a surge in crasher bug reports in the past week, which I hope is helped by the latest upload of libxfce4util two days ago. People reporting crashes today can still be a few days behind latest so it will take a while to know whether that package really fixes many of the fce4-session and xfdekstop4 crashers > As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system > after I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live session. It would make sense if it's because of limited memory, even though it's a shame to have regressed from dapper in that regard :( . The trash plugin and system-tools-backends are two apps which I think are there and were not before. I'll wait to see if you indeed have 128M before going too deep into this. Jani ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:34:35 +0200 From: Jani Monoses < <a href="mailto:jani.monoses@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jani.monoses@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: Big Kudos To: <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Cc: <a href="mailto:xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:etup8s$d0e$2@sea.gmane.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">etup8s$d0e$2@sea.gmane.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Cody Somerville wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > As you know, I'm still in the hospital. The good news is that I'll be > out in 3-4 weeks but the bad news is that I might not have Internet for > awhile as I'll be moving once I get out of the hospital. I'll be sure to > keep in touch regardless. Hi, hopefully when you get out we'll be close to a really good xubuntu release waiting to be used ;) best wishes Jani ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:45:37 -0500 From: "Jim Campbell" <<a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jwcampbell@gmail.com </a>> Subject: Re: getting useful backtraces via -dbgsym packages To: "Xubuntu Development Discussion" <<a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:         <<a href="mailto:cc5454020703221345r77944ecs7cd25da2abdd2159@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> cc5454020703221345r77944ecs7cd25da2abdd2159@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jani, I have a rather odd setup with 448mb of RAM.  It is only on a PII-400 machine, though.  Perhaps that could be part of the issue if you are concerned about computing power. I am drafting a message to the listserve to recruit a few more testers.  As of now, I am the only one to report test results on the beta images that were released yesterday.  Hopefully we can see if others are having similar problems. Thank you for your help! Jim On 3/22/07, Jani Monoses <<a href="mailto:jani.monoses@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jani.monoses@gmail.com </a>> wrote: > > Jim Campbell wrote: > > Jani, > > > > The xfce4-panel didn't start in my live session of the most recent > > (2007/03/22) i386 live cd.  Unfortunately, my i386 box isn't networked > > right now, so I can't do much to get you the backtrace. > > This used to happen in edgy as well with only 128M of RAM, is that your > case by any chance? > > > > Is there a bug (or set of bugs) that you're following for this, or the > > other recent xfce-related crashes? > I am not sure, there was a surge in crasher bug reports in the past week, > which I hope is > helped by the latest upload of libxfce4util two days ago. People reporting > crashes today > can still be a few days behind latest so it will take a while to know > whether that package really fixes > many of the fce4-session and xfdekstop4 crashers > > > As a note, xfce4-panel worked properly on the actual installed system > > after I completed the install - just didn't appear in the live session. > > It would make sense if it's because of limited memory, even though it's a > shame to have regressed from dapper > in that regard :( . The trash plugin and system-tools-backends are two > apps which I think are there and were not > before. I'll wait to see if you indeed have 128M before going too deep > into this. > > Jani > > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com </a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> > -- <a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jwcampbell@gmail.com</a> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Because we seem to be a bit thin on test reports at the moment, and the beta is set to be released tomorrow, it is most important that we at least test for the i386 architecture.  Here are the links for reporting your results * i386 desktop <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93132" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93132</a>> * i386 alternate <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93133" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93133</a>> If we have adequate coverage on those two items (or if you do not have an i386 computer) please test on an AMD64-based computer: *AMD64 desktop <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93134" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93134</a>> *AMD64 alternate <<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93135" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-iso-tests/+bug/93135</a>> As a note, each "bug" has general instructions on what to do to test and to report your tests, so please see the "bug" description for helpful links and information.  :-) For those of you who have provided test reports recently, we did have some relatively last-minute changes to the ISOs which required us to "reset" the test results in the past few days.  Although it can feel disappointing, it's all part of the testing process . . .  it's because of tests like ours that we're able to find bugs, and fixing those bugs ultimately leads to better releases.  :-) Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions, Jim -- <a href="mailto:jwcampbell@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> jwcampbell@gmail.com </a> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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