Yes, i agree. The live CD can be hard or sometimes impossible to use for many computers, and upgrading can be considered a chore as you have to back up all your data and re-install applications, themes, splash-screens, login pages, etc and reconfigure your system. This is one way people may start to dislike ubuntu and favor other OSs. <div> ~~Alex <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Personally, I'm thinking something different to this "issue". I personally think the "issue" comes from "misleading in the web site". On most download sites of (K,X,Ed)ubuntus, they states: LiveCD is the one "most people will need". However, it is wrong. I personally think: LiveCD is only designed for troubleshooting and most people should use "Alternative install CD" instead. --- when the OS in your hard disk got problem, especially when they don't boot, you can use LiveCD and boot your computer to see if problem can be solved. --- The "install" feature of LiveCD is just a "bonus" and should never be considered the default way to install your OS.  --- please note that the LiveCD has no "upgrade" feature, what would you think if the vendor told you "you could never upgrade your OS, when new version comes you could only reinstall your operating system from scratch!" If the aim is to install or upgrade your Ubuntu(or Kubuntu, Xubuntu), IMO most people should download and use alternative CD. To say: if you don't know what you want, then just try the alternative INSTALL CD. It's not an alternative, it is the CD you should use for INSTALL... -- Sincerely, Pan, Shi Zhu. ext: 2606 </blockquote></div>