As for myself, I use Swiftfox, which is faster and seems to be in keeping with Xubuntu's spirit of speed. Abiword I used to use, but it doesn't work with MS Word or pictures very well, and I find myself using Google Docs for my quick stuff lately. But still, Abiword is useful and works well. I've never used Sylpheed, except the old original Sylpheed that's included in DSL. I didn't like it but as a general rule GTK+1 apps stink. I like the way that Thunderbird handles feeds and HTML-formatted mails, using Gecko. But I haven't used Thunderbird recently, using Gmail + a slew of Firefox extensions and GreaseMonkey scripts instead. I vote to keep Firefox or get Swiftfox put into the repos and used. I don't really care about the email client though. -cellofellow <div>On 12/6/06, john levin <<a href="mailto:john@technolalia.org">john@technolalia.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Oblio wrote: >> wow, that was fast ... i clicked send and already 2 replies. >> >> i think opera is a bad idea, i can't stand the browser and i don't think >> we can package it on the distro cd because it isn't open source ... not >> sure >> about the licensing on that. >> >> -Adam > > > I know, but after all, it comes down to preference. Xubuntu will ship > Firefox > because it can be supported, and it's Open Source, and someone with older > machines can install Opera because it's faster. > > Basically, this problem can't be solved: > - all Gecko based browser are slow (seems it's going to be solved); > actually not > slow, but huge memory munchers > - Konqueror is KDE based > - all other lightweight browsers are unsuitable for general use > - Opera is closed source > > So Firefox it shall be :) > Has anyone tried Skipstone? <a href="http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/">http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/</a> It aims to be a light and fast gecko browser, in GTK with few dependencies. John -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>