Xubuntu has/was never my choice because of old hardware. I run Xubuntu on an iBookG4 1GHz w/ 768mb of ram, an Athlon64 3200+ w/ 1gb of ram, and an Athlon64 X2 4600+ w/ 2gb of ram. Xubuntu is wonderful for the fact that it is more efficient, less bloated, smoother than the alternatives, has a logical window placement algorithm, and mostly just has a more pleasant over all user+DE interaction. We owe many thanks to Xfce for a substantial amount of this but also we must not forget our Xubuntu devs, they give so much in their spare time and it looks as though that the newest ubuntu-base or something related has caused the system requirements to be bumped up a little. Now while I will be the first to agree that it would be nice to pin point why the requirements have gone up and see if it can be fixed, I don't see why in the mean time we should be trying to alter what Xubuntu is all about...... sorry if this is a little preachy, I just kinda started thinking thought my keyboard and didn't stop .... also, my opinion to the "old hardware" issue requires me to have a little more information ... thus we go to Jani. :)
<br><br>Jani,<br> If the user runs 128mb and uses the alternate install image, is the desktop still usable?<br><br>-Adam<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/7/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Harold Aling</b> <
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<pre>Hi Jani<br><br>On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 19:09 +0200, Jani Monoses wrote:<br> </pre>
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<pre>Unfortunatley we have a bad regression since dapper. The liveCD will<br>not function properly<br>with 128M of RAM and no swap. This I only noticed in qemu and wrongly<br>assumed (hoped) it's<br>specific to it, but we get bugreports confirming it on real machines.
<br>This sadly makes xubuntu lose one of its selling points :( I have no<br>idea what causes the extra memory<br>use, it may be system-tools-backend which use perl, but I don't know<br>for sure.<br> </pre>
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<pre>I'm working on a local derivative of Edubuntu/Xubuntu for schools, and<br>I've let local people know that we will be using the live cd<br>infrastructure. Some of the more technical people was already unhappy<br>about this because the livecd doesn't have a rescue mode, and the bigger
<br>problem they have is that you can't install it on low memory (like<br>128MB) machines.<br><br>What I've done to get arround this, is make the default session a little<br>python+glade interface I created, where they can start the installer
<br>without logging into the Xubuntu session, this allows you to even<br>install it on a computer with a bit less than 128MB RAM, here's a<br>screenshot of the chooser I made:<br> </pre></span>
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Perfect!<br>
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When I install (x)ubuntu on a machine, I don't want/need a complete
desktop environment, the installer alone is more than enough.<br>
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If I do want a DE, it would be very nice if it would be selectable (on
boot)...<br><span class="sg">
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-H-</span><span class="q"><br>
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<pre><a href="http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/screenshots/dvd" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://photos.jonathancarter.co.za/screenshots/dvd</a> (artwork not final<br>yet, it will look way better when it's done).
<br><br>I showed this to cjwatson, and he suggested that it gets integrated in<br>GDM instead. That gave me an idea for a fix for this problem for Xubuntu<br>too, you could add another session to GDM that will just run ubiquity,
<br>and make it possible to install on a low-end machine. Otherwise, I'd be<br>glad to share my tool when it's more polished, but at the moment the<br>code isn't very elegant at all. :)<br><br>-Jonathan<br><br><br><br> </pre>
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