J. Mak & Everyone else,      I completely agree that Xubuntu will pass Kubuntu, the fact that the panels should be smaller by default, and I like the new window dressings (that just came out in the update) along with the idea of V3 being default wallpaper, but I would have to disagree with the icon padding. I really don't think that's an issue and I kinda like it, but then again .. that is just my opinion.     Also, the boot splash still doesn't exist on AMD64 ... any thoughts? I have tried it on 2 different AMD64 machines (one a single and the other a dual core) and I get the same results, just wondering. But yes, Xubuntu dominates and we will become the most used alternative to Ubuntu, all in due time. <div>On 10/7/06, jmak <<a href="mailto:jozmak@gmail.com">jozmak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi all, I am sorry I haven't had much time providing feedback about edgy so far but as you know, I am working almost full time on the ubuntu artworks that takes much of my time. But today I managed to install edgy on my computer and here are some of my feedback and suggestions. ARTWORKS. The login screen now can be considered final. I also fine-tuned WALLPAPER V3 and am suggesting to be used as the default wallpaper. I tweaked its color and now it goes nicely with the login screen and the blue clearlooks theme. Both uploaded to the <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkXubuntuProduce">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkXubuntuProduce </a> wiki. FEEDBACK. Panels. I already said this during the dapper phase but now I bring it up again. They are oversized; not only visually unpleasing but it makes no sense from the functional point of view either. Imagine how much valuable screen  space it takes from a 15 inch monitors. Pleeeeeese change the default to 26 like gnome. Icons. I think tango is not a good choice. It lacks contrast and is very boring as well . The new gnome icons, on the other hand, elegant, complete and contrast nicely with the background. I very much recommend using them. The other thing is the ugly labels behind the icon text.  I've heard that this bug was already fixed in the newest xfce release.  I am not sure though, but if this is the case it would be nice to take them out and create a desktop that looks and feels like the other flavors. Icons on the panel. This I already mentioned during the dapper phase. There is too much padding around the icons. They suppose to touch the edges of the panel edges like in gnome. This was already fixed in dapper but now I see a regression in this regard. Question?  Jani, what is your plan regarding the splash. I hope this mouse thing wont come back  again because this would destroy the visual impact of the entire interface. Otherwise, xubuntu rocks. I expect that it will pass kubuntu on the distrowatch soon and becomes the second most popular ubuntu flavor. And Mark likes its look a lot. That's it for now, I hope not forgetting anything. Cheers, J. Mak -- <a href="http://jozmak.googlepages.com/">http://jozmak.googlepages.com/</a> -- xubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div> -- -=:Max:=- --OpenPGP key: 5DBFA065--