<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 26/04/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jani Monoses</b> <<a href="mailto:jani.monoses@gmail.com">jani.monoses@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style="direction: ltr;">Hi<br><br><div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br>Window Manager Preferences<br><br>Picks up a specific keybinding theme from my previous XFCE 4.2.3<br>settings, but doesn't allow new Shortcuts to be added? Have to<br>create a new theme!? Can't find how to even add a custom key-<br>binding.... am I missing something?</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"> <div><br>indeed this is an annoying upstream feature. In recent versions it should be a bit <br>easier, add a new theme and it keeps the rest of the keys. But I agree it is unintuitive<br>to thnk of this as 'themes' indtead of sinpy keys but I guess it is historical and upstream<br>does not seem like is going to change it. And we don't have enough resources to tweak <br>and maintain changes to upstream xfce desktop as we think would be friendlier.<br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Applications Menu (Xubuntu specific?)<br><br>File Manager should default to Thunar. Wow, haven't checked it<br>out for a while now and I'm impressed.</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>it is thunar now </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>In the thunar-dev mailinglist this was discussed, it defaults to Thunar only in English, so if you language is African it would still be xffm. This was a while ago so I don't know if it's still an issue. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="direction: ltr;"><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Separate Lock Screen panel action should be included<br>(ie. not small and included, but separate)</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>not sure if many more panel applets are needed. It becomes visually cluttered easily. <br><br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">For your average user, under Applications/System sub-menu:<br><br>Where is the network device manager GUI? </blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>in universe still unfortunately (xubuntu-system-tools) <br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Where is the gnome-cups-manager GUI, or a GTK-only equivalent? </blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>was in my plans but seems won't be there for dapper :( and there's no<br>gtk only thing like that AFAIK. Upstream xfce does not have such tool.<br></div></div> <div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> These functions are absolute essentials for a desktop.</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>I agree with this. <br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The xfce4-taskmanager should definitely be either on the panel by<br>default, or at the very least available via the (+) Add New Item</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>it's a techie thing. Users shoould not care about 'processes' <br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"> <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">option on the panel. This is one of the most important apps for<br>your average GUI centric user, when a bloated application like <br><a href="http://openoffice.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">openoffice.org</a> decides to freeze.</blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>it's not a panel plugin but a normal app so cannot be there. As for freezing apps <br>try ctrl-alt-esc (should trigger xkill, if not it's a bug) <br></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm not convinced that minimizing apps to icons on the desktop is a <br>good idea... why the introduction of yet another way of showing </blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><div><br>me neither :) File launchers the default since last week, the minimized apps is upstream default<br>for CDE compatibility/nostalgy. There are people who like that but we try to follow what is common <br>on other desktops.<br></div></div></div><div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="sg"><br><br>Jani<br> </span></div><br>--<br>xubuntu-devel mailing list<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel" target="_blank"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel</a><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Vincent<br><br><a href="http://getfirefox.com">http://getfirefox.com</a>