<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I understand the need to stick with apps that perform well on older machines, but OpenOffice is the cross-platform standard these days, and I think it should be included with any install even though it will be slow on older machines. </blockquote></div> Unfortunately as others have also mentioned OOo is slow. If it performs acceptably on a particular box than gnome and kde are probably more likely desktops than xfce there. As you said OO is the cross platform standard these days, but it is also the main apps that  give a lot of bad name to free software in my limited experience because people expect it to compete with ms office written for computers of 5 years ago, and when they see it they are disappointed. abiword and gnumeric support Open Document but they too have their shortcomings even if they are a lot lighter. So office software sucks on linux but this is not news unfortunately. Jani