<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/10/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">j Mak</b> <<a href="mailto:email@example.com">firstname.lastname@example.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> <div>Recently, I've
converted my friend's 13 year old daughter to Linux because her windows got infected every one or two months with viruses and spy-ware. Now, she uses Ubuntu and happy because she can visit all the virus infected download sites without being afraid of getting viruses. But to make her satisfied I had to install a few additional programs like Limewire, mplayer with the codecs and dvd libraries and F-Spot; now she can do the same things with Linux she got used to doing on the windows. This gave me a chance to learn about her and her friend's surfing and user habits, and helped me to figure what were the most important of programs teenagers couldn't live without.
</div> <div></div> <div></div> <div>- a messenger program like Gaim for chatting</div> <div>- a file exchange program like Limewire</div> <div>- a good music player</div> <div>- a video program, like mplayer
</div> <div>- an image viewer that can retrieve images from cameras, like F-Spot</div>
<div></div> <div>If xubuntu is intended for the average users rather than specialists, I think the default applications should reflect this. From this point of view the Gimp, Inkscape, Dia are not even </div></div></blockquote>
</div><br>Right, it is definitley intended for average users so the programs you mention would be nice if we had low resource and nice alternatives (I bet f-spot is not low resource)<br>but we do not compete with ubuntu/kubuntu as they're in a far better position to provide the average users with ms-windows like niceness.
<br>For instance the good music/video player points are not as much technical as license/patenting related, this is why unfortunatley even ubuntu can't play things the average user would want out of the box.So whether we put gxine/xfmedia/mplayer as default is not as important as the plugins we include. With no mp3 and many common video formats unavailable
<br>the app does not matter that much.<br>But I am sure we can have both inskcape/dia and home user apps along on the CD they do not exclude each other, the only blocking criteria are availability and those written in the wiki.