<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>My real concern is that I don't know what the "goal" of Xubuntu is, to<br>
tell me what it should become.</blockquote><div><br>
I feel your concern. Maybe we should decide on a clearer goal than ubuntu+xfce I guess.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">My personal desire is to get an easy to use, lightweight workstation<br>for programmers and system administrators.
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Mine is lightweight workstation for people using older hardware - i.e schools,<br>
internet cafes etc. where legacy hw predominates and kde/gnome linux distros<br>
cannot really compete with win98 and the likes here. It's still tough to do it with<br>
xubuntu too since 2.6 kernels and the associated userspace stack, xorg, gtk even<br>
are all pretty demanding. I am thinking P2-128Mb-ish hw should be very usable<br>
with xubuntu, so that is a sort of informal target of mine. I think the idea of an edubuntu variant<br>
using xfce has been thrown around as well but before that becomes feasible we have<br>
to make xubuntu stand on it's own.<br>
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</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> thunar<br><br>Xffm has been broken up into distinct units. Perhaps, if we settle on
<br>one file manager, only those non-FM components of Xffm could be<br>included.<br><br>In other words, Thunar is the file manager, and Xffm provides a<br>filesystem search tool, a patch manager, and the like.</blockquote>
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My thought too, the only concern would be not to annoy the xffm userbase, which<br>
I have no idea how large is. It would help if xfce upstream designated thunar as _the_<br>
file manager. Admittedly all of those who had written to this list were excited about thunar<br>
and noone raved about xffm IIRC, but maybe they're just shy :)<br>
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</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> xfburn(instead of graveman)<br><br>I don't know that any work has gone into Xfburn since it's initial
<br>import into SVN. Might be a good question to ask, since it's shaping<br>up to be very very nice.</blockquote><div><br>
Again this is a tentative goal, we depend on upstream. Ideally, resources and skills allowing<br>
we should collaborate with xfce also on development issues.<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> 3) Volume manager<br>> right now ivman seems the most likely candidate. As kubuntu will not use it
<br>> starting with kde 3.5 we may tweak it<br>> for our use in the default install. I remember somebody trying to write a<br>> volume manager for xfce4 but I am not sure<br>> what the status of that is.<br>
<br>I think Ivman is the best bet, though if someone were to build a nice<br>GUI around it I wouldn't object. Perhaps I can look into that, though<br>I'm not likely to have enough time, since I'm trying to move Mousepad<br>
along once again.</blockquote><div><br>
Ok just don't make a gedit out of it ;) <br>
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Jani<br>