<div>On 11/15/05, Collins Richey <<a href="mailto:crichey@gmail.com">crichey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Colin McDermott colmcd at <a href="http://optusnet.com.au">optusnet.com.au</a> Fri Oct 7 20:06:32 CDT 2005 [ SNIP ] <WDM is only a tiny bit heavier then XDM but a pain to configure. Plus A shutdown button is really < needed (Most users I know struggle to shut WDM down). </blockquote></div> I have looked at both slim and gdm. I made a package out of slim but it is a bit slow to start (actually to display/stretch the background jpeg) and does not have all features needed from what I have seen. No ctrl-alt-bspace support for instance. I admit to not having tested it much so if others have good experience with it please say so. I also looked at what would it take to get gnome deps out of gdm and it looks doable, it did not start out as a gnome app so it does not relay on too many of gnome libs. I am confident I can make a working non-gnome version of it which we could use, and I think with keeping _most_ features already in gdm. This would have the advantage of having the same code as ubuntu even one more level up the stack, it has support for suspend/hibernate and looks good too. Again others' pro/con options of gdm are highly appreciated. I still do not have any numbers on what performance/memory footprint penalty gnome libs incure so this chopping out of gnome from evince/gdm may be unnecessary and for upstream at least, annoying. I hope I'll have gtk-only packages of both in the future so they get more widespread testing. Jani