I don't know if there is already a "standard" Displaymanager, <div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">but have you thought of using a loginmanager instead of a displaymanager? SLiM is very beautiful and has little dependencies! <a href="http://slim.berlios.de/">http://slim.berlios.de/</a> Just as a suggestion! :) </blockquote></div> Thanks for the tip. Btw what is the difference between a login manager and a display manager? What does slim not do that gdm does and we may need? Originally I was thinking of slimming down gdm itself for our needs, but I will look at this package too Jani