<div>On 10/1/05, Steve <<a href="mailto:radarsat1@gmail.com">radarsat1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> hm, replying to my own mail again.. i just checked out mousepad and terminal.  they're both quite nice actually.  since this is supposed to be an XFCE-centric distro, and not just a "my favorite apps" distro, and since these were written specifically for xfce, maybe we should include and default to them both. Am I right in assuming that the point here is mostly to show off the capabilities of XFCE, rather than just providing a nice collection of tools?  Because of course users who know of other software can just kick up synaptic and install whatever they want anyways.  What we're really discussing here is the *defaults*, and which packages to include on the live cd.  Right?  So I suppose they should be mostly xfce-related..</blockquote><div>  </div> </div>Yes they should be xfce-related But the point is not showing off xfce in detriment of a nice collection of tools, if we find something more appropriate for editor/terimal/media than the current ones we should use those. But since the former were written by xfce developers I assume we will hardly find better ones. I used to use  multi-gnome-terminal which is a gtk1.2 gnome1 app and seems light enough, so if it turns out to be lighter than xfce4-terminal it would be ok. But the terminal app is the least controversial since thos who use the cmd line can easily chose their preferred one.