i386 EOL plans for Xubuntu?
bryan.quigley at canonical.com
Tue Jul 12 20:58:03 UTC 2016
The results from the the torrent tracker (for 16.04) show:
ISO name completed downloads total transfer
-desktop-amd64.iso 1371 501 579.28GiB
-desktop-i386.iso 814 340 394.15GiB
But I don't know how accurate these numbers really are.
Given the discussion (and what I see the consensus to be) and data
I've seen it looks like it makes sense to keep Xubuntu i386* and look
at it again after 18.04. I'm just reporting back to ubuntu-devel, so
this isn't stuck in stone or any kind of official thing.
*Steering more users to the longer supportable 64-bit version would
certainly help them in the future. And the memory usage difference is
overrated - https://bryanquigley.com/memory-usage/ubuntu-16-04-livecd-memory-usage-compared
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Dave Pearson <dave at reklan.co.uk> wrote:
> If we look purely at the numbers.
> I have been seeding the torrents for 16.04 since release.
> 32bit version has had 236GB of downloads
> 64bit version has had 160GB of downloads
> So from my seed at least,,the 32 bit version is very popular.
> I would say look at it again at 18.04.. but not just to drop it..
> On 11 July 2016 at 19:23 Bryan Quigley <bryan.quigley at canonical.com> wrote:
> Hi Xubuntu team,
> From the thread on Ubuntu-devel/discuss  I'm going to start
> conversations with each flavor on what their plans are for i386 in the
> 18.04 timeframe. I have some survey results  that might help with
> The general ideas are either:
> *Start Dropping i386 for Xubuntu now*
> A. Drop Xubuntu i386 ISO for 16.10
> B. In addition to A, also block upgrades by dropping packages from
> i386 archive (say xfwm4, but that would need to wait for other derivs..).
> Some Pros: Halves the test cases you need to go through. Reduces
> bandwidth usage and makes it more obvious for new users what to
> download. (Read other thread for some others)
> *Wait until after 18.04 and then reconsider dropping i386*
> Pros: Maintain older hardware running Xubuntu for another 2+
> years (up from 3 years).
> * You could consider any packages that are 100% specific to the
> Xubuntu flavor. I'll be reaching out to Mythbuntu and Ubuntu Studio
>  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-June/039420.html
>  The total results for Xubuntu (48 of the 300 responses - Second
> most responses).
> How long do you expect this machine to last?
> at least 1 year - 3
> at least 3 years - 18
> at least 5 years - 16
> at least 7 years or more - 11
> What would be the effect if support ended... (1 is no impact, 5 is
> significant impact)
> April 2019 (16.04 LTS support ends here for Xubuntu - 3 year LTS)
> 1 - 5
> 2 - 6
> 3 - 8
> 4 - 9
> 5 - 17
> April 2021
> 1 - 10
> 2 - 8
> 3 - 12
> 4 - 8
> 5 - 7
> April 2023
> 1 - 23
> 2 - 8
> 3 - 6
> 4 - 5
> 5 - 4
> i386 - To be clear I mean any 32-bit x86 platform (usually AMD/Intel/VIA).
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