xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 5
abdullah demir
abdullahdemir.of77 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 11 14:55:28 UTC 2015
be able to work on any platform CD-ROM should work even 650 mb.küçük light
most beautiful xubuntu
2015-02-11 16:53 GMT+02:00 abdullah demir <abdullahdemir.of77 at gmail.com>:
> I think it should remain a swan iso mold should not exceed 1GB
>
> 2015-02-11 16:40 GMT+02:00 <xubuntu-devel-request at lists.ubuntu.com>:
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>> 1. [TEAM] ISO target size (Pasi Lallinaho)
>> 2. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (PK)
>> 3. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (Pasi Lallinaho)
>> 4. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (Micah Gersten)
>> 5. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (A Blesius)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:52:56 +0200
>> From: Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>
>> To: Xubuntu Developer <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: [TEAM] ISO target size
>> Message-ID: <54DB5EB8.2040701 at shimmerproject.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
>> size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to
>> bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>>
>>
>> PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on filling
>> the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
>> thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list. Thank
>> you.
>>
>>
>> After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
>> argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
>> limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>>
>> This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
>> including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
>> and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>>
>> My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
>> should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
>>
>> What do you others think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pasi
>>
>> --
>> Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
>> Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
>> Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:13:20 +0100
>> From: PK <pliniusminor at gmail.com>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
>> Message-ID:
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>> In my opinion it's only desirable to stay somewhat below 2 GB (with a
>> margin of 100 - 200 MB). So that all 2 GB USB thumb drives are fit for
>> Xubuntu, with a few MB's to spare for persistent space for documents and
>> such.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to strive for "below or as close
>> as possible to 1 GB" as well.
>>
>> With only "somewhat below 2 GB" as requirement, the Xubuntu developers
>> will
>> get more freedom to add bigger packages if they wish. Which might benefit
>> the market share of Xubuntu in the long run.
>>
>> I'm not a dev, just a translator for Xfce (upstream) and for (X)ubuntu, so
>> I'm eager to get some technical feedback on this view from the devs. :-)
>>
>> Regards, Pjotr.
>>
>> 2015-02-11 14:52 GMT+01:00 Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
>> > size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to
>> > bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>> >
>> >
>> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on filling
>> > the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
>> > thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list. Thank
>> > you.
>> >
>> >
>> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
>> > argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
>> > limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>> >
>> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
>> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
>> > and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>> >
>> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
>> > should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
>> >
>> > What do you others think?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Pasi
>> >
>> > --
>> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
>> > Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
>> > Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:22:52 +0200
>> From: Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
>> Message-ID: <54DB65BC.7050803 at shimmerproject.org>
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>> While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one.
>>
>> Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the
>> smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of course, if
>> something is considered essential, then it can be added, but the
>> starting point should be to not include anything that isn't essential.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Pasi
>>
>> On 11/02/15 16:13, PK wrote:
>> > In my opinion it's only desirable to stay somewhat below 2 GB (with a
>> > margin of 100 - 200 MB). So that all 2 GB USB thumb drives are fit for
>> > Xubuntu, with a few MB's to spare for persistent space for documents
>> > and such.
>> >
>> > As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to strive for "below or as
>> > close as possible to 1 GB" as well.
>> >
>> > With only "somewhat below 2 GB" as requirement, the Xubuntu developers
>> > will get more freedom to add bigger packages if they wish. Which might
>> > benefit the market share of Xubuntu in the long run.
>> >
>> > I'm not a dev, just a translator for Xfce (upstream) and for
>> > (X)ubuntu, so I'm eager to get some technical feedback on this view
>> > from the devs. :-)
>> >
>> > Regards, Pjotr.
>> >
>> > 2015-02-11 14:52 GMT+01:00 Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org
>> > <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>>:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the
>> target
>> > size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we
>> > wanted to
>> > bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>> >
>> >
>> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
>> > filling
>> > the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
>> > thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list.
>> > Thank
>> > you.
>> >
>> >
>> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB.
>> The
>> > argument for that target size was that it was the next usual
>> hardware
>> > limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>> >
>> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
>> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over
>> 1GB
>> > and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>> >
>> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new
>> > target
>> > should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at
>> maximum".
>> >
>> > What do you others think?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Pasi
>> >
>> > --
>> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
>> > Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
>> > Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
>> Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
>> Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:35:04 -0600
>> From: Micah Gersten <micahg at ubuntu.com>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
>> Message-ID: <C1AD8A85-6AF8-4976-8673-D8FF5F8A4B11 at ubuntu.com>
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>>
>> On February 11, 2015 7:52:56 AM CST, Pasi Lallinaho <
>> pasi at shimmerproject.org> wrote:
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
>> >size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted
>> >to
>> >bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>> >
>> >
>> >PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
>> >filling
>> >the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
>> >thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list.
>> >Thank
>> >you.
>> >
>> >
>> >After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
>> >argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
>> >limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>> >
>> >This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
>> >including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
>> >and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>> >
>> >My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
>> >should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
>> >
>> >What do you others think?
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Pasi
>> >
>> >--
>> >Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
>> >Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
>> >Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
>> >
>> >
>> >--
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>> I would suggest a one click install or something similar for LibreOffice
>> amd stick with 1GB. Alternatively, if there are enough testers, produce a
>> version of Xubuntu with LibreOffice (maybe called XubuntuOffice :)).
>> With the prevalence of Google Docs and Office 365, is there a need for
>> most people to have LibreOffice installed locally?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Micah
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:40:14 +0100
>> From: A Blesius <onkel-pflaume at web.de>
>> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
>> Message-ID: <54DB69CE.2080909 at web.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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>> I don't see why we should unnecessarily increase the ISO size. LO is
>> in the repos, so why bother shipping it directly? If we decide to move
>> on to <2 GB now, then we'll decide for <4 GB some time later. It will
>> begin to grow from release to release, and at some time Xubuntu will
>> no longer be a low-resources distro, which is one reason why I'm using it.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
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>> Am 11.02.2015 um 14:52 schrieb Pasi Lallinaho:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the
>> > target size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending,
>> > we wanted to bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>> >
>> >
>> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
>> > filling the ISO with $software. People who send software
>> > suggestions to this thread have the risk of being added to the
>> > manual moderation list. Thank you.
>> >
>> >
>> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB.
>> > The argument for that target size was that it was the next usual
>> > hardware limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>> >
>> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
>> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over
>> > 1GB and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>> >
>> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new
>> > target should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at
>> > maximum".
>> >
>> > What do you others think?
>> >
>> > Cheers, Pasi
>> >
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