xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 113, Issue 5
abdullah demir
abdullahdemir.of77 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 11 14:53:51 UTC 2015
I think it should remain a swan iso mold should not exceed 1GB
2015-02-11 16:40 GMT+02:00 <xubuntu-devel-request at lists.ubuntu.com>:
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> 1. [TEAM] ISO target size (Pasi Lallinaho)
> 2. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (PK)
> 3. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (Pasi Lallinaho)
> 4. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (Micah Gersten)
> 5. Re: [TEAM] ISO target size (A Blesius)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:52:56 +0200
> From: Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>
> To: Xubuntu Developer <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [TEAM] ISO target size
> Message-ID: <54DB5EB8.2040701 at shimmerproject.org>
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> Hello,
>
> in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
> size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to
> bring the discussion in the mailing list.
>
>
> PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on filling
> the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
> thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list. Thank
> you.
>
>
> After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
> argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
> limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
>
> This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
> including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
> and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
>
> My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
> should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
>
> What do you others think?
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
> --
> Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
> Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
> Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:13:20 +0100
> From: PK <pliniusminor at gmail.com>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
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> In my opinion it's only desirable to stay somewhat below 2 GB (with a
> margin of 100 - 200 MB). So that all 2 GB USB thumb drives are fit for
> Xubuntu, with a few MB's to spare for persistent space for documents and
> such.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to strive for "below or as close
> as possible to 1 GB" as well.
>
> With only "somewhat below 2 GB" as requirement, the Xubuntu developers will
> get more freedom to add bigger packages if they wish. Which might benefit
> the market share of Xubuntu in the long run.
>
> I'm not a dev, just a translator for Xfce (upstream) and for (X)ubuntu, so
> I'm eager to get some technical feedback on this view from the devs. :-)
>
> Regards, Pjotr.
>
> 2015-02-11 14:52 GMT+01:00 Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
> > size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted to
> > bring the discussion in the mailing list.
> >
> >
> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on filling
> > the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
> > thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list. Thank
> > you.
> >
> >
> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
> > argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
> > limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
> >
> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
> > and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
> >
> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
> > should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
> >
> > What do you others think?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> > --
> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
> > Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
> > Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 16:22:52 +0200
> From: Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
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> While the media size is one of the concerns, it's not the only one.
>
> Download times are an argument for keeping as small as possible; the
> smaller our ISOs are, the less time they take to download. Of course, if
> something is considered essential, then it can be added, but the
> starting point should be to not include anything that isn't essential.
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
> On 11/02/15 16:13, PK wrote:
> > In my opinion it's only desirable to stay somewhat below 2 GB (with a
> > margin of 100 - 200 MB). So that all 2 GB USB thumb drives are fit for
> > Xubuntu, with a few MB's to spare for persistent space for documents
> > and such.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, there's no need to strive for "below or as
> > close as possible to 1 GB" as well.
> >
> > With only "somewhat below 2 GB" as requirement, the Xubuntu developers
> > will get more freedom to add bigger packages if they wish. Which might
> > benefit the market share of Xubuntu in the long run.
> >
> > I'm not a dev, just a translator for Xfce (upstream) and for
> > (X)ubuntu, so I'm eager to get some technical feedback on this view
> > from the devs. :-)
> >
> > Regards, Pjotr.
> >
> > 2015-02-11 14:52 GMT+01:00 Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org
> > <mailto:pasi at shimmerproject.org>>:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
> > size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we
> > wanted to
> > bring the discussion in the mailing list.
> >
> >
> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
> > filling
> > the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
> > thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list.
> > Thank
> > you.
> >
> >
> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB.
> The
> > argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
> > limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
> >
> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over
> 1GB
> > and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
> >
> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new
> > target
> > should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
> >
> > What do you others think?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> > --
> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
> > Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
> > Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:35:04 -0600
> From: Micah Gersten <micahg at ubuntu.com>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
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> On February 11, 2015 7:52:56 AM CST, Pasi Lallinaho <
> pasi at shimmerproject.org> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the target
> >size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending, we wanted
> >to
> >bring the discussion in the mailing list.
> >
> >
> >PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
> >filling
> >the ISO with $software. People who send software suggestions to this
> >thread have the risk of being added to the manual moderation list.
> >Thank
> >you.
> >
> >
> >After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB. The
> >argument for that target size was that it was the next usual hardware
> >limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
> >
> >This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
> >including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over 1GB
> >and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
> >
> >My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new target
> >should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at maximum".
> >
> >What do you others think?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Pasi
> >
> >--
> >Pasi Lallinaho (knome) ? http://open.knome.fi/
> >Leader of the Shimmer Project ? http://shimmerproject.org/
> >Ubuntu member, Xubuntu Website lead ? http://xubuntu.org/
> >
> >
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> I would suggest a one click install or something similar for LibreOffice
> amd stick with 1GB. Alternatively, if there are enough testers, produce a
> version of Xubuntu with LibreOffice (maybe called XubuntuOffice :)).
> With the prevalence of Google Docs and Office 365, is there a need for
> most people to have LibreOffice installed locally?
>
> Thanks,
> Micah
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 15:40:14 +0100
> From: A Blesius <onkel-pflaume at web.de>
> To: Xubuntu Development Discussion <xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: [TEAM] ISO target size
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> I don't see why we should unnecessarily increase the ISO size. LO is
> in the repos, so why bother shipping it directly? If we decide to move
> on to <2 GB now, then we'll decide for <4 GB some time later. It will
> begin to grow from release to release, and at some time Xubuntu will
> no longer be a low-resources distro, which is one reason why I'm using it.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Alex
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> Am 11.02.2015 um 14:52 schrieb Pasi Lallinaho:
> > Hello,
> >
> > in the last community meeting we had some discussion about the
> > target size for our ISO. Since many of the team weren't attending,
> > we wanted to bring the discussion in the mailing list.
> >
> >
> > PLEASE NOTE that this is not a idea/proposal thread for ideas on
> > filling the ISO with $software. People who send software
> > suggestions to this thread have the risk of being added to the
> > manual moderation list. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > After we couldn't fit into a CD any more, our target has been 1GB.
> > The argument for that target size was that it was the next usual
> > hardware limit (eg. there aren't many 900MB USB sticks).
> >
> > This discussion is current since we are talking about potentially
> > including LibreOffice; if that happens, we will definitely go over
> > 1GB and there isn't anything we can drop to get back below.
> >
> > My suggestion on the meeting was that if we go over 1GB, our new
> > target should be "below or as close to 1GB as possible, but 2GB at
> > maximum".
> >
> > What do you others think?
> >
> > Cheers, Pasi
> >
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