[TEAM] Mailinglist setup

[Pasi Lallinaho]

For what it's worth, I don't think there is an easy/ideal way to set up
moderation in a way that only lets certain members post with a certain
tag. The bottom line is that if everybody can post, they can post
everything.

However, it might be possible to filter everything with a certain
keyword (and I don't even know how using those technically work), but
then again we can at most send *all* of those posts to the moderation
queue, which means some moderation overhead and potential dragging of
those threads. Ultimately this doesn't stop anybody to post a reply to
such a thread without the keyword.

Cheers,
Pasi

On 19/05/14 19:30, Thomas Molloy wrote:
> -1
> Agreed on the mailing list being not busy, as long as a thread can be
> locked to team members only that would be handy.
>
> - Lderan
>
> > Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:40:48 +0300
> > From: pasi at shimmerproject.org
> > To: xubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: [TEAM] Mailinglist setup
> >
> > On 2014-05-16 19:18, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Simon Steinbeiß <simon at xfce.org>
> wrote:
> > >> Hi Xubuntu team members,
> > >>
> > >> we started voting on Pasi's mailinglist-proposal (previously
> circulated on this list [1]) in today's community meeting [2]. So far,
> we haven't had enough votes for the motion to be carried or rejected,
> hence I'm asking you to vote here on the mailinglist. (As the topic
> isn't very controversial, I hope everyone is ok with public voting. If
> not, feel free to email me.)
> > >>
> > >> Just reply with +1, 0 or -1 to this thread - you can obviously
> also explain why you voted one or the other way.
> > >> So far, we have 6 votes for the proposal and 0 against (and 0
> abstained).
> > > -1
> > >
> > > I don't see this devel list as actually *that* busy or that we get out
> > > of hand with off-topic/flamey topics that often. Plus, it's sad when I
> > > get a message from a list telling me my messages has been moderated
> > > and I don't like discouraging folks from participating.
> > >
> > > Also not thrilled with the idea of being a judge of what's "important"
> > > enough to let through, I tend to think it's nice that folks can use
> > > this list to give feedback on default apps or correspond with us here
> > > about bugs they find if they're having trouble using the tracker or
> > > launchpad. It helps us get a pulse from our users about what they find
> > > valuable enough to bring to the attention of developers, otherwise
> > > they just whinge on social media and in blogs and we don't have a
> > > great mechanism for collecting that data spread all over the place.
> >
> > I understand and empathize these comments to a certain degree.
> >
> > I do agree that the list itself isn't very high traffic, however, the
> > amount of offtopic messages in percent is, as I see it, too high. This
> > only doesn't take my (and others') time from contributing, it also
> > distracts me from ontopic messages.
> >
> > The possibility that people get discouraged from participating is the
> > single biggest negative side of the moderating I'm suggesting. While
> the
> > moderating will bring some exclusivity in any case, we can help make
> the
> > first impression better by improving the "your mail is pending" email.
> > Ultimately, all ontopic messages should get through with no problems,
> > and with a good field record, people should get their moderation flag
> > dropped.
> >
> > I guess I see the moderating in a slightly different way than you do. I
> > don't really conceive it as deciding what is "important", just what is
> > ontopic. Of course the decision is not always easy, but in that case,
> > you should probably approve the mail. Only obviously offtopic messages
> > should be declined.
> >
> > All that being said, and having made the proposal, I'm open for other
> > options as well, as long as they enable us to cut down the
> percentage of
> > the offtopic messages.
> >
> > Finally, the moderation I'm proposing does not have to be permanent.
> The
> > #xfce-dev IRC channel was moderated for some time because of the amount
> > of noise. They have since dropped the moderation, but the situation is
> > clearly better now. If a temporary moderation period helps us get the
> > results we want, it would obviously be the best solution.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> > --
> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome) » http://open.knome.fi/
> > Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu » http://shimmerproject.org/
> > Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member » http://xubuntu.org/
> >
> >
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>
>


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