[Bulk] In-flight: XP to 7

[PK]

Totally incorrect. There's no deviation from the Ubuntu software base at
all.

Proof: if you've installed Ubuntu 12.04 before the point releases, and
you've installed all the updates until now, you still have the 3.2.x-kernel
as well. Just like Xubuntu 12.04.

No higher kernel; that only happens in Ubuntu 12.04 when you do a clean
install of Ubuntu 12.04.4.

Regards, Pjotr.


2014-02-15 18:42 GMT+01:00 Michael Fischer <fischerfm at yahoo.de>:

>  Constructive:
>
>    -
>
>    keep the promises of the release notes
>     -
>
>    be part of the Ubuntu community or leave the Ubuntu software base - be
>    clear
>     -
>
>    want to go after the XP base - know the base and their desires and
>    needs, before assuming things. Have hard facts.
>
> I'd appreciate if members here do not get defensive when bugs (in the docs
> or the kernel versions) are communicated. And having Xubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
> with kernel version 3.2.0 is by all standards a bug. Proof: there is no
> information in the docs about leaving the Ubuntu 12.04.4 software base with
> an outdated kernel version.
>
> Thanks!
>
> FMF
> On 15.02.2014 18:02, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
>
> Richard, while your analysis and experiences might be interesting for
> some, please discuss it further in the users mailing list, where discussion
> on non-development issues are welcome.
>
> Michael, please reconsider your attitude. If you can't bring anything to
> the discussion except snarky and/or unconstructive comments, please do not
> post to this list.
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
> On 15/02/14 18:34, Michael Fischer wrote:
>
> I had no success to find any hard market numbers on the XP->Xubuntu
> migration on non-PAE platforms so far. It seems clear, however, that the
> Xubuntu image resulting from the 12.04.4 cheat is most likely: A Very Good
> Computing Enviroment for Written-off Hardware. There is a market for that.
> An interesting one? I doubt.
>
> FMF
>
> On 15.02.2014 17:05, Richard Elkins wrote:
>
> USA Notes .....
>
> People who survey and keep track of statistics are reporting that home XP
> users have been and still are taking the easy technological route of
> upgrading to 7, either legally or illegally.  I doubt if many home Windows
> users are thinking about GNU/Linux at all.  Resistance to change and
> expense is at play.
>
> Hardly anyone realizes that their Android phones are running a Linux
> kernel.  This is similar to the fact that MacOS and iOS users do not
> realize that their machines are running an offshoot of BSD Unix.  People
> just look at the eye candy and believe that this is the "system".
>
> Commercial use is a different story.  Many businesses are buying new or
> converting to Linux.  Faster, more secure, and not more expensive than
> Windows.  IBM and Redhat have benefited hugely from this continuing trend.
> The commercial desktops, however, are upgraded from XP to 7 "enterprise
> edition".  Corporate America is locked into Microsoft Office and Exchange
> for the foreseeable future.
>
> Ask anyone on the street in America "what is Linux" and you'll usually get
> a blank look.  I often have trouble in social situations explaining what I
> do.
>
> For Linux and BSD Unix users and fans, there is still a tall mountain to
> climb, especially in communications.
>
> Richard the pessimist (sometimes)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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